How to Derive the Integral of Sqrt[x^2-a] Using Trigonometric Substitution?

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The discussion centers around deriving the integral of the expression Sqrt[x^2 - a] using trigonometric substitution. Participants explore various methods and approaches to arrive at the integral without relying on tables.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that the integral can be expressed as 0.5(x(x^2-a)^0.5) - 0.5aln(x+(x^2-a)^0.5) but seeks a derivation method.
  • Another participant suggests taking the natural logarithm of the expression and applying the chain rule to derive the derivative, leading to a formula for y' in terms of x and the original expression.
  • A later reply expresses frustration over mistakenly taking a derivative instead of focusing on the integral derivation.
  • One participant recommends using trigonometric substitution, specifically mentioning secant and tangent as potential substitutions.

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Participants have not reached a consensus on the best method for deriving the integral, and multiple approaches are being discussed without resolution.

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Some assumptions regarding the conditions under which the integral is derived may be missing, and the discussion does not clarify the specific values or constraints for 'a' in the expression.

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I believe the answer is 0.5(x(x^2-a)^0.5)-0.5aln(x+(x^2-a)^0.5)

does anyone know how to get this/derive this i.e. not take from tables !

Thanks
 
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I believe what you can do is write out the expression and take the log of both sides. WHen taking the derivative, you must remember y is a function of x.

y = Sqrt[x^2 - a]
y = [x^2 - a]^(1/2)

Take natural log

Ln[y] = Ln{ [x^2 - a]^(1/2) }
Ln[y] = (1/2) Ln{[x^2 - a]}

Take derivative wrt x. Don't forget you must apply chain rule to right hand side. Where y' comes out anyway.

(1/y) (y') = 2x/ (2 (x^2 - a))

writing more neatly, cancel a two

(y'/y) = x / (x^2 - a)

Finally, multiply a y back over and resub your original y.

y' = yx/ (x^2 - a) y = [x^2 - a]^(1/2)


Thus
y' = x [x^2 - a]^(1/2) / (x^2 - a)

y' = x(x^2 - a)^(-1/2)
 
I'm an idiot, I took a deravitive. Not even the easiest way either.
 
Use a trigo substitution. Specifically, look at the ones for sec and tan.
 

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