How to derive the period of non-circular orbits?

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The discussion focuses on deriving the period of non-circular orbits using conservation of mechanical energy and angular momentum. The equations presented illustrate how to relate the radius at any time to the initial energy and derive an integral for the period of a celestial body's orbit. A simpler method based on Kepler's second law is suggested, highlighting that the orbital period can be calculated using the area swept out by the orbiting body. The final formula for the period is linked to the semi-major axis and the total mass of the system, emphasizing the dominance of the Sun's mass in the solar system. The conversation concludes with a correction regarding the formula for the period, ensuring accuracy in the calculations.
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How to derive the period of non-circular orbits?
Relevant Equations
$$

T = \sqrt{\frac{4 r_0^3}{\tilde m}} \int_{1}^{r_{min}/r_0}\frac{\rho}{\sqrt{\left ( 1 - \rho \right) \left (\rho - \frac{\ell^2}{\tilde mr_0} \left (1 +\rho \right) \right )} } \; d\rho

$$
By conservation of mechanical energy:
$$
E(r_0)=-\frac{GMm}{r_0}+\frac{1}{2}\mu \left (\dot{r_0}^2+r_0^2 \omega_0^2 \right)
$$
where R0 =Rmax. Because our body is located at the apoapsis the radial velocity is 0. Hence:
$$
E(r_0)=-\frac{GMm}{r_0}+\frac{1}{2}\mu (r_0\omega_0)^2
$$
By the conservation of angular momentum we have:
$$
\omega_0 =\frac{L}{\mu r^2}
$$
$$
E(r_0)=-\frac{GMm}{r_0}+\frac{L^2}{2 \mu r_0^2}
$$
Then, we can relate the radius r at any given time, to the initial energy:
$$
-\frac{GMm}{r} + \frac{1}{2}\mu \left (\frac{dr}{dt} \right)^2 + \frac{L^2}{2 \mu r^2}= -\frac{GMm}{r_0}+\frac{L^2}{2 \mu r_0^2}
$$
$$
\left (\frac{dr}{dt} \right)^2 = \frac{2GMm}{\mu} \left ( \frac{1}{r} - \frac{1}{r_0} \right) + \frac{L^2}{\mu^2} \left ( \frac{1}{r_0^2} - \frac{1}{r^2} \right)
$$
Let
$$\tilde m = \frac{2GMm}{\mu}, \; \ell^2 = \frac{L^2}{\mu^2}$$
$$
\left (\frac{dr}{dt} \right)^2 = \frac{\tilde m}{r} \left ( 1 - \frac{r}{r_0} \right) - \frac{\ell^2}{r^2} \left (1 - \frac{r^2}{r_0^2} \right)
$$
Rearranging a little bit:
$$
\frac{1}{\sqrt{\tilde m}} \int_{r_0}^{r_{min}}\frac{\sqrt{r} \; dr}{\sqrt{\left ( 1 - \frac{r}{r_0} \right) \left (1 - \frac{\ell^2}{\tilde mr} \left (1 + \frac{r}{r_0} \right) \right )}} = \int_0^{T/2} dt
$$
In the radial integral, the limits of integration go from, R0 to Rmin, covering half of the elliptic path of the orbit. This would take T/2 seconds. Because of this, our limits of integration, for t, are 0 and T/2.
Let's define $$\rho = r/r_0$$
$$
dr = r_0 \; d \rho
$$
We finally get:
$$
T = \sqrt{\frac{4 r_0^3}{\tilde m}} \int_{1}^{r_{min}/r_0}\frac{\rho}{\sqrt{\left ( 1 - \rho \right) \left (\rho - \frac{\ell^2}{\tilde mr_0} \left (1 +\rho \right) \right )} } \; d\rho
$$
Solving this integral yields a formula for the period of a body orbiting a star, planet or other celestial body. Is this line of reasoning right? Is this integral even possible to solve? I would appreciate any hint.
 
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Have you tried to (re)search what the orbital period of an elliptical orbit is?
 
TheMisterOdd said:
Solving this integral yields a formula for the period of a body orbiting a star, planet or other celestial body. Is this line of reasoning right? Is this integral even possible to solve? I would appreciate any hint.
I didn't see anything wrong with what you did, but there is a simpler approach based on Kepler's second law. The body sweeps out area at a constant rate, so the period is the area of the ellipse divided by the rate.
 
From the Kepler equation you get [EDIT: corrected in view of #5]
$$T^2=\frac{4 \pi^2 a^3}{GM},$$
where ##M=M_{\text{sun}}+M_{\text{planet}}##, which for our solar system is approximately ##M_{\text{sun}}##, because even Jupiter has a mass much smaller than that of the Sun (about 1/1000 of the mass of the Sun).
 
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vanhees71 said:
From the Kepler equation
The ##4\pi## should be ##4\pi^2##.
 
Thanks. I've corrected the typo.
 
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