How to Determine Charge and Excess Electrons in Millikan's Oil Drop Experiment?

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The forum discussion focuses on determining the charge and excess electrons in Millikan's Oil Drop Experiment using five specified electric fields: 2.7x104, 3.1x104, 3.6x104, 4.0x104, and 5.2x104 N/C. The calculated charge values were found to be 3.63x10-19, 3.16x10-19, 2.73x10-19, 2.45x10-19, and 31.89x10-19 C, leading to excess electron counts of 2.27e, 1.97e, 1.7e, 1.53e, and 1.18e. The discussion emphasizes the expectation that the number of excess electrons should be an integer, highlighting the importance of conducting multiple trials to improve accuracy and address potential errors in measurements.

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Homework Statement


hello, our task was to go on to this site http://www.wcsyearbooks.com/millikan/experiment.html and then figure out the charge and the number of excess electrons on the oil drop using 5 electric fields.
Electric field: 2.7x10^4, 3.1x10^4, 3.6x10^4, 4.0x10^4 and 5.2x10^4
m=1.0 x10-15 kg
g is -9.8 m/s2.

Homework Equations


for charge: q=mg/E
found that q= 3.63x10^-19, 3.16x10^-19, 2.73x10^-19, 2.45x10^-19 and 31.89x10^-19

for number of excess electrons: N=q/e
found that e= 2.27e, 1.97e, 1.7e, 1.53e and 1.18e

however this does not seem right but is is just simple calculations with most of the data given to me...


The Attempt at a Solution


i sort of did it up there i just didnt show the esact calcualtions because it is simple math but the thing i don't understand is whether or not the drops have an integer of excess electrons..if it did wouldn't N be a whole number?

thanks for any help.
 
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Thats the supreme brilliance of the experiment--it should be an integer number. But given the difficulty of this experiment, I bet if you ran 100 oil droplets thru 5 voltages, they would start to cluster around n's. The one that outlies here is the 1.53. But 5 trials might be increased with better results. Can you do 5 for each 5 fields?
 
im not sure if we are allowed to do that since she only asked for five but ill probably include a sources of error and put that down.

I talked to my teacher this morning and she said she wasnt worried about the numbers that we discovered just as long as we are able to explain why it is incorrect. But that's where I am confused..how is it possible to be wrong? If one of my numbers were an integer i couldn't ignore the other four...
 
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Now that would be the supreme mistake, you get one in 5 you like, ignore the rest. I understand the temptation. But you need to keep from imposing your wishes on the data set. You could do 5 trials and have one come up out to
.99 or 1.02 and sieze on that when the true value is 1.3. Mendel who figured out the rudiments of genes did exactly that.

And your teachers answer shows great insight as well--don't throw out the beby with the bathwater. All measurements and sampling are prone to error. Understand the size and source.
 

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