Millikan oil drop experiment charge determination

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The discussion revolves around the Millikan oil drop experiment, specifically focusing on determining the charge of a charged oil droplet suspended between two parallel plates with varying voltage values. Participants are exploring the relationship between the voltage readings and the charge of the droplet, as well as the assumptions necessary for their calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants are attempting to relate the recorded voltage values to the charge on the droplet, questioning how to express the charges in terms of a base charge and integers. Some are exploring the implications of the ratios of voltages and the assumptions needed for their calculations.

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Several hints have been shared regarding the relationships between the charges and the voltages, with participants discussing potential integer values for the charges. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the data provided, and while some participants express excitement about their findings, there is no explicit consensus on the final answer.

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Participants mention constraints related to homework rules that prevent them from sharing complete solutions, which influences the nature of the discussion and the hints provided.

Jacob Pilawa
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Howdy y'all!

If you could help with the following question, my physics class and I would be extremely grateful.

A charged oil droplet is suspended motionless between two parallel plates (d=0.01m) that are held at a potential difference V. Periodically, the charge on the droplet changes as in the original oil drop experiment. Each time the charge changes, V is adjusted so that the droplet remains motionless. Here is a table of recorded values of the voltage:

i. 350 V

ii. 408.3 V

iii. 490 V

iv. 612.5 V

From the data above, determine the charge on the dorplet for case (i) above. What assumptions do you need to make? (Hint: the ratio of voltages = ?)

Thanks a ton, we've been stumped.

I'm going to be honest here, me and 2 friends have been working on this for about 4 hours, and we don't really have any substantial work to show. Any help would be great. Thanks.
 
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I can give you a hint, but I haven't solved it myself yet: ## 350* \, Q_1=408.3* \, Q_2=490* \, Q_3=612.5* \, Q_4 ##. ## Q_4<Q_3<Q_2<Q_1 ##. Find some ## Q_o ## so that ## Q_4=n_4 \, Q_o ##, ## Q_3=n_3 \, Q_o ##, etc., ## n_4, n_3,... ## integers (hopefully small ones). Sorry, I edited a couple of times because I read it incorrectly.
 
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Charles Link said:
I can give you a hint, but I haven't solved it myself yet: ## 350 \, Q_1=408.3 \, Q2=490 \, Q_3=612.5 Q_4 ##. ## Q_4<Q_3<Q_2<Q_1 ##. Find some ## Q_o ## so that ## Q_4=n_4 \, Q_o ##, ## Q_3=n_3 \, Q_o ##, etc., ## n_4, n_3,... ## integers (hopefully small ones).
Okay, this makes sense. However, where can we go from here? Is there anyway to solve for the integers?
 
I have it, but I'm not allowed to give the solution. I can give you a hint though. The smallest number, ## Q_4 ## is greater than 3. Another hint is the numbers are exact enough, that I think the data is probably simply constructed by the professor as a good learning exercise. One additional hint=let ## Q_4=n_4 ## (Ignore the ## Q_o ## part mentioned previously.) Please let us know if you figured out the answer.
 
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Charles Link said:
I have it, but I'm not allowed to give the solution. I can give you a hint though. The smallest number, ## Q_4 ## is greater than 3.

Okay, so we talked it out a little bit. So does this mean that the answer is 7e=1.12x10^-18 coulumbs?
 
Jacob Pilawa said:
Okay, so we talked it out a little bit. So does this mean that the answer is 7e=1.12x10^-18 coulumbs?
Yes. One additional question for you=what did you get for the other 3 integers? And were the calculations almost exact?
 
Charles Link said:
Yes. One additional question for you=what did you get for the other 3 integers?

We got all the integers as 7,6,5, and 4. Thank you so much! We just screamed in excitement and relief.
 
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