How to Determine Maximum Tension Before a Rubber Band Snaps?

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The discussion revolves around determining the maximum tension a rubber band can withstand before snapping, particularly in the context of a physics project involving suspended masses. The subject area includes concepts from mechanics and material science, particularly related to elasticity and tension.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between applied force and tension, questioning whether to use T=mg or Hooke's law (F = k/\L). There is discussion about how the spring constant may change as the rubber band is stretched and approaches its breaking point.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the concepts, with some suggesting that tension equals the applied force until the elastic breaks. Others are considering the effects of bouncing masses on the rubber band's integrity and how this might influence the tension experienced by the material.

Contextual Notes

There are considerations regarding the changing properties of the rubber band as it is stretched, including the impact of temperature and material thinning on its tensile strength. The discussion acknowledges the complexities involved in determining the spring constant and the ultimate tensile strength of the rubber band.

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Hi, I just have a problem dealing with the background of a project I am working on in physics...
I basically have a rubber band fixed at a point above the ground, from which I have masses suspended from it. So obviously, as I add more mass, the elastic is strained more and more, and stretches to a point where it finally just snaps. Anyhow, in this particular situation, how exactly would I figure out the maximum tension (or ultimate strength) before it fractures? Is it just a matter of T=mg? Or F = k/\L? (Hookes law) if you argue that elastics are considered springs...in which case, how would I determine a constant of proportionality?
thanks
 
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You use F = mg to find out what Force you've applied to the band.
You can "try" to use F = k/\L to determine the k - value for the band.

As you stretch the material, the "spring konstant" will gradually change
(it is getting thinner, so the Pressure = F / cross-section Area changes).
As you get CLOSE to breaking it - the "Ultimate Tensile Strength" -
k will start to change drastically (some molecule bonds ARE breaking).
 
oooh so is it safe to say tension = F applied up until the elastic breaks?
 
well, if the mass is bouncing, then its acceleration is nonzero.

But if a=0 , then the hanging thing has mg (down) and T (up) only.

The elastic will be more likely to break if the hanging thing bounces,
because its Temperature will cycle rapidly (bad for macromolecules).
 

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