How to Determine the Angle for Optimal Force Direction in Engineering?

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The discussion revolves around determining the angle (theta) for connecting a member to a plate in an engineering context, specifically to ensure that the resultant force of two forces, F1 and F2, is directed horizontally. The scope includes homework-related problem-solving involving trigonometric functions and vector components.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a homework problem requiring the determination of an angle to achieve a specific resultant force direction.
  • Another participant suggests that trigonometric functions, such as sine and cosine, will be necessary for solving the problem.
  • A participant expresses difficulty in finding the x and y components of F1, specifically noting an expression for the x-component as x = 8 cos(90 - theta).
  • Another participant encourages further progress and mentions that the x-component can also be expressed using sin(theta).
  • One participant proposes a relationship sin(theta) = Fr/8, indicating that both the resultant force and angle are unknowns, complicating the solution.
  • A later reply emphasizes the need to find additional components, specifically F1y, F2x, and F2y, before addressing the resultant force.

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The discussion does not appear to reach a consensus, as participants express various stages of understanding and different approaches to the problem. There is ongoing uncertainty regarding the calculation of components and the resultant force.

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Participants mention missing resources, such as a textbook, which may limit their ability to reference examples or confirm their approaches. There are unresolved mathematical steps related to the components of the forces.

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Engineering question about angle??

Homework Statement



Determine the angle (theta) for connecting member 1 to the plate soo that the resultant force of F1 and F2 is directed horizontally to the right. Also, what is the magnitude of the resultant force?
i drew a sketch diagram up in paint to help me but it did not. here is what i made.


Homework Equations


i know you will have to use some trig like cos and sin
also maybe law of cos



The Attempt at a Solution



i did the sketch also i tried braking down the both the F1 and the F2 into x and y components but got stuck on the x and y components for the F1 because i get for
x= 8 cos (90 - theta)
any help would be great.
thanks
 

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fball558 said:
i did the sketch also i tried braking down the both the F1 and the F2 into x and y components but got stuck on the x and y components for the F1 because i get for
x= 8 cos (90 - theta)
So far, so good. Keep going. (Note that you can also express that x-component using sinθ.)
 


sin θ = Fr/8 where Fr is the resultant force. but that is 2 unknowns and i don't know what to do from there. i don't have the textbook for this class, the book store ran out or i would just look in there for examples.
 


fball558 said:
sin θ = Fr/8 where Fr is the resultant force.
One step at a time. You haven't gotten to the resultant force yet. You're still finding the x-component of F1: F1x = 8 sinθ. Now find F1y, F2x, and F2y.
 

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