How to Differentiate y= sin(3x)/x^2

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hiya, do you mind checking my awnsers please? i think i may have gotten them all wrong.

a: y= sin(3x)/x^2

b: (x^3) * (cos(4x))

c: If dy/dx =5/x and y=6 when x=0, then y=

d: if ln(x^3) - ln(x) = 4, then x=e^something

e: if dy/dx = 3e^x, and y = 7 when x =0, then y =

my attempts

a: y= sin(3x)/x^2
lo*dhi - hi*dlo/lo^2
((x^2)*(3cos(3x))) - ( (2x)*(sin(3x)) )/((x^2)^2)
 
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b: (x^3) * (cos(4x))

( (3x^2) * cos(4x) ) + ( (x^3) * 4(-sin(4x)) )
 


c: If dy/dx =5/x and y=6 when x=0, then y=

integral of 5/x= 5ln(x) + c
5ln(x) + c = 6
ln(0)=1 so
5*1 + c = 6
c=1, 5ln(x) + 1 = y
 


d: if ln(x^3) - ln(x) = 4, then x=e^something

ln(x3)-ln(x) = 4

eln(x^3) - eln(x) = e4
= x3 - x = e4

not sure how to solve from here, mind helpin or showing me an example?
 


vorcil said:
a: y= sin(3x)/x^2
lo*dhi - hi*dlo/lo^2
((x^2)*(3cos(3x))) - ( (2x)*(sin(3x)) )/((x^2)^2)

This looks good

vorcil said:
b: (x^3) * (cos(4x))

( (3x^2) * cos(4x) ) + ( (x^3) * 4(-sin(4x)) )
Good.
vorcil said:
c: If dy/dx =5/x and y=6 when x=0, then y=

integral of 5/x= 5ln(x) + c
5ln(x) + c = 6
ln(0)=1 so
5*1 + c = 6
c=1, 5ln(x) + 1 = y

Are you sure those are the initial conditions? Since ln(0) does not exist.

vorcil said:
d: if ln(x^3) - ln(x) = 4, then x=e^something

Use this logarithm rule [itex]log_ax - log_a y=log_a (\frac{x}{y})[/itex]
 


rock.freak667 said:
Are you sure those are the initial conditions? Since ln(0) does not exist.
x=e not 0, sorry
 


vorcil said:
x=e not 0, sorry

Then part c would be correct.
 


rock.freak667 said:
Then part c would be correct.
so ln(e) = 1?
 


d: if ln(x^3) - ln(x) = 4, then x=e^something

i'm not sure how to use that equation you gave me to solve this
[itex]log_ax - log_a y=log_a (\frac{x}{y})[/itex]
 
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vorcil said:
so ln(e) = 1?

Yes

vorcil said:
d: if ln(x^3) - ln(x) = 4, then x=e^something

i'm not sure how to use that equation you gave me to solve this
[itex]log_ax - log_a y=log_a (\frac{x}{y})[/itex]

If I tell you that lnX is the same as logeX, would that help you more?
 
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d: if ln(x^3) - ln(x) = 4, then x=e^something
logex^3 - logex

which is loge(x^3/x)
do i use the quotient rule or something there?
 
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vorcil said:
e: if dy/dx = 3e^x, and y = 7 when x =0, then y =


integral of 3e^x dx = 3e^x + c
so 3e^x + c = 7
e^0 = 1,
3*1 + c = 7
y=3e^x + 4
 
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using this [itex]log_aX - log_a Y=log_a (\frac{X}{Y})[/itex]

if X=x3 and Y=x, can you find one log term?
 
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rock.freak667 said:
using this [itex]log_aX - log_a Y=log_a (\frac{X}{Y})[/itex]

if X=x3 and Y=x, can you find one log term?

is it x^2? x^3/x^1 = X^3-1

ln(x^2) = 4
x^2 = e^4
x = e^4/nothing^2
x = e^4-2

x=e^2?
 
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vorcil said:
is it x^2? x^3/x^1 = X^3-1

ln(x^2) = 4
x^2 = e^4
x = e^4/nothing^2
x = e^4-2

x=e^2?


Yes, the final answer is correct, but it should be something like this

[tex]x^2=e^4[/tex]
[tex]x=\pm (e^4)\frac{1}{2}[/tex]

[tex]x= \pm e^2[/tex]

But x can't be negative since ln(-ve) does not exist so

x=e2 only.
 
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rock.freak667 said:
Yes, the final answer is correct, but it should be something like this

[tex]x^2=e^4[/tex]
[tex]x=\pm (e^4)\frac{1}{2}[/tex]

[tex]x= \pm e^2[/tex]

But x can't be negative since ln(-ve) does not exist so

x=e2 only.


OHO sweet! cheers mate, thanks for the help =]
 

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