How to explain that ∇ ⋅ B = 0 but ∂Bz/∂z can be non zero?

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The discussion revolves around the apparent contradiction between Gauss's law for magnetism, stated as ∇ ⋅ B = 0, and the possibility of a non-zero partial derivative ∂Bz/∂z in certain magnetic field configurations. Participants explore the implications of this law in component form and seek to reconcile the mathematical expressions with physical examples.

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  • One participant notes that Gauss's law for magnetism in component form leads to the equation (∂Bx/∂x) + (∂By/∂y) + (∂Bz/∂z) = 0, suggesting that all partial derivatives must be zero for the equation to hold.
  • Another participant clarifies that the equation is a scalar dot product, indicating that while the sum of the derivatives must equal zero, individual derivatives can be non-zero.
  • A third participant reinforces this point, emphasizing that any of the components can be non-zero as long as their sum is zero.
  • A later reply expresses gratitude for the clarification regarding the nature of the dot product in the context of the discussion.

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Participants generally agree on the interpretation of the dot product in the context of Gauss's law for magnetism, but there is an underlying tension regarding the implications of non-zero partial derivatives in specific scenarios.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the broader implications of magnetic fields with spatial gradients, such as those observed in the Stern-Gerlach experiment, and how these relate to the mathematical formulation of Gauss's law.

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It is known that Gauss's law for magnetism is ∇ ⋅ B = 0.
If we write this in component form it becomes (∂Bx/∂x)i + (∂By/∂y)j + (∂Bz/∂z)k = 0, where i, j, k are unit vectors in a cartesian coordinate system and Bx, By, Bz are the components of the magnetic field on these axes.
It would follow then that all the partial derivatives must be zero: (∂Bx/∂x) = 0, (∂By/∂y) = 0 and (∂Bz/∂z) = 0 for this equation [ (∂Bx/∂x)i + (∂By/∂y)j + (∂Bz/∂z)k = 0 ] to obtain.
But we know that there are magnetic fields with spatial gradients as, for example, in Stern-Gerlach experiment, where the magnetic force on a dipole of magnetic moment F is m⋅(∂Bz/∂z).
How to reconcile mathematically ∇ ⋅ B = 0 with the fact that ∂Bz/∂z can be non-zero?
Thank you.
 
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In component form ∇.B=0 reads,
∂Bx/∂x+∂By/∂y+∂Bz/∂z=0,there is no vector here because the product is scalar as implied by ∇.B
 
It's a dot product. That should tell you right away that the answer needs to be a scalar.

[tex]\nabla \cdot B = \frac{\partial B_x}{\partial x} + \frac{\partial B_y}{\partial y} + \frac{\partial B_z}{\partial z} = 0[/tex]

Any of these can individually be non-zero. So long as the sum is zero.
 
Thank you, andrien and K^2. I completely overlooked that ∇ ⋅ B is regarded as a dot product.
 

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