How to find accumulation points and open sets in a sequence?

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of accumulation points and open sets in the context of sequences and real analysis. Participants are exploring specific examples and definitions related to these concepts, including the properties of intersections of open sets and the nature of accumulation points in bounded sets.

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  • One participant requests an example of a sequence of open sets whose intersection is not open.
  • Another participant discusses the definition of an accumulation point, referencing a specific definition from a real analysis text, and argues that the infimum of a set bounded below with no minimum is an accumulation point.
  • A participant suggests a method involving intersecting decreasing neighborhoods with diameters approaching zero, noting that the intersection may result in a single point that is not open unless a discrete topology is used.
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Participants express differing views on the nature of accumulation points and the properties of open sets, with no consensus reached on the examples or proofs discussed.

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There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of accumulation points and open sets, as well as the specific conditions under which the discussed properties hold.

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1) give an example of a sequence (An) of open sets such that the intersetion

∩ An is not open.
n in N


2) If A is a nonempty set of real numbers bounded below with no minumum, then infA is an accumulation point of A.

Could somebody gives some hint on those questions? Thank you very much...i have no i dear on the 2nd prove...
 
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ShengyaoLiang said:
2) If A is a nonempty set of real numbers bounded below with no minumum, then infA is an accumulation point of A.

What is your definition of an accumulation point? The definition I am familiar with is the one in Royden's real analysis text that says a point x is an accumulation point of the set E if it is a point of closure of the set E-{x}. In your case however since A has no minimum then infA cannot belong to A (suppose it does belong to A, and A has no minimum, then there exists a element m in A such that m is smaller than infA, but this contradicts that infA is a lower bound of A, hence infA does not belong to the set A.) then obviously A=A-{infA} so you would only need to show that infA is a closure point of A, or that every neighbourhood about infA contains a point in A.
 
intersect decreasing neighborhood whose diameter goes to zero, make sure all neighborhoods have a common point you then get their intersection to be a single point which is not open unless you are using the discrete metric/topology.
 
Thank You Very Much~~~~hoho
 

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