How to Find Electric Fields in a Parallel Plate Capacitor with Two Dielectrics?

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The discussion revolves around finding the electric fields in a parallel plate capacitor that contains two different dielectrics. The setup involves a distance of '2s' between the plates, with each dielectric occupying a length of 's'. The plates are charged with a surface charge density denoted as \itshape \sigma.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster considers using Gaussian surfaces to find the electric field due to each plate and questions whether to account for the influence of the other dielectric and plate. Some participants suggest starting with the relationship involving the displacement field D and its connection to the electric field E, while others inquire about the effects of the adjacent dielectric on each dielectric's electric field.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on using the displacement field D to find the electric field E. There is an exploration of the relationship between the dielectrics and the electric fields, with some participants expressing confidence in the original poster's approach while encouraging further attempts to solve the problem.

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Participants reference the Griffith textbook, indicating a shared familiarity with its content and acknowledging the complexity of the problems presented. There is a recognition of the need for clarity regarding the influence of each dielectric on the electric field calculations.

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so here is what my problem is. there are two dielectrics between a parallel plate capacitor. distance between the two plates is '2s' and each dielectric is 's' long. each plate has a charge of \itshape \sigma (top being pos. and bottom being neg. and doesn't give an area) how would i go about finding the electric fields in each dielectric.

i was thinking finding the electric field (using a pillbox, and Gaussian theorem) caused by each plate ONLY to the dielectric touching it. after doing that to each do i have to find what the electric field in each dielectric due to the other dielectric and other plate? or am i done there?
it makes sense that i would have to keep going, but then again, i haven't learned enough from my textbook (Griffith EM 2nd edit.) to continue on with the problem. or i might
 
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I think I remember the problem you are talking about , (Griffith textbook is a great one but I aslo struggled with the probelms he wrote) ..

anyway, I suggest you start from the fact that : integral of D .da = Q(fenc) ,and find D from there , then you can easily find E using :

D = e E (e here is epsilon) ..

I hope I was able to help you with this problem .. :)
 


thebigstar25 said:
I think I remember the problem you are talking about , (Griffith textbook is a great one but I aslo struggled with the probelms he wrote) ..

anyway, I suggest you start from the fact that : integral of D .da = Q(fenc) ,and find D from there , then you can easily find E using :

D = e E (e here is epsilon) ..

I hope I was able to help you with this problem .. :)

ok, you that's what i was going for, but do u know if each dielectric is effected by just the plate touching it, or everything including the other dielectric?
 


when you find D you should notice that it is the same for both dielctric, so in order to find E you just need to find (epsilon) for each one then from there you can get E .. Do you agree with that? If it is still not clear ask again ..
 


thebigstar25 said:
when you find D you should notice that it is the same for both dielctric, so in order to find E you just need to find (epsilon) for each one then from there you can get E .. Do you agree with that? If it is still not clear ask again ..

ya I am pretty sure i get the intuition behind it, ill take it that i just use Gaussian pillbox for each of the dielectrics that it touches and see where that takes me
 


I believe you are starting in the right way, try to solve it and let us know what answer you will end up :) ..
 

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