How to Find Global Extrema of f(x,y)=sinxy in a Closed Region?

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The discussion revolves around finding the global extrema of the function f(x,y)=sin(xy) within the closed region defined by 0

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relevance of the second derivative test for multivariate functions and the need for first-order partial derivatives. There are attempts to outline steps for finding extrema, including setting derivatives to zero and evaluating critical points. Questions arise regarding the boundaries of the defined region and the implications of the second derivative in this context.

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The discussion is ongoing, with some participants offering guidance on the importance of trying different approaches. There is a divergence in opinions regarding the necessity of the second derivative test, and some participants express a need for clarification on the boundaries of the region under consideration.

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Participants note the constraints of the problem, including the requirement to analyze both the interior and boundary of the closed region defined by the inequalities 0

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Homework Statement


Find the global extrema of the function f(x,y)=sinxy on the closed region given by 0<x<pi and 0<y<pi. You must provide a complete analysis of the function both inside the region and on each of the boundary lines. Be sure to clearly indicate the maximum and minimum values and all places where they occur.

Homework Equations


The first and second derivates of sinxy

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This seems hard!...But I think its not!{BUT IT COULD BE HARD!}All you need to know is the second derivative test for multivariate functions!That is D=(Fxx)(Fyy)-(Fxy)^2...the D is delta!...steps in the solution would be as follows:find the first order partial derivatives of f(x,y) with respect to x [df/dx=ycosxy] and with respect to y[df/dy=xcosxy] then equate these two with zero to have solutions of extreme points (y=0,xy=pi/2 and x=0)..subsititute these values into f(x,y) to have extreme values (0,1 and 0) respectively!The SECOND DERIVATIVE test gets in handy now,to show you where there are relative minima,maxima,saddle point or indeterminate cases and to provide an equation which will give us a region in the x-y plane to define x and y values which are present in the region of extremity...take 2nd order partial deritives [Fxx=-y^2 sinxy],[Fyy=-x^2 sinxy] and mixed partial derivative [Fxy=-yx sinxy]!...I'd advise now to have a table to evaluate D <from above,beginning> with proper correspondence...Cases are if D>0,and Fxx>0 then relative minimum,D>0 and Fxx<0 then relative maximum,D<0 then saddle point and when D=0 then it is an indeterminate case!..proper evaluation will correspond extremum points (y=0,xy=pi/2 and x=0) with Delta cases ( indeterminate, [(yx)^2-(pi/2)^2] and indeterminate) respectively,leave the indeterminate cases aside and focus on the middle...(xy)^2-(pi/2)^2=D...use the case conditions..1. to have relative maximum y<0 and y>pi/2x...2. to have relative minimum then y>0 and y>pi/2x and finally to have saddle point y<pi/2x!...And if you so much care an inderterminate case at y=pi/2x..KEEP IN MIND both x and y obey the initial conditions 0<x<pi and 0<y<pi!So might as well sketch a graph to demonstrate the FEASIBLE REGION.. !...contact me through gipstud@yahoo.com for further discussions.
 
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The second derivative is irrelevant here. However the most important part of any problem is that you try! ookt2c, I see no evidence that you have tried at all. What is the derivative of sin(xy)? Once you have found it what are you going to do with it?

Perhaps the most important part of this problem is the reference to the "boundary lines". What is the boundary of the set?
 
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The second derivative is irrelevant here. However the most important part of any problem is that you try! ookt2c, I see no evidence that you have tried at all. What is the derivative of sin(xy)? Once you have found it what are you going to do with it?

Perhaps the most important part of this problem is the reference to the "boundary lines". What is the boundary of the set?

eerm..Sir I think the second derivative test is very relevant!Its a multivariate function,how else would you be able to do it,leaving aside using completing the square<which is irrelevant> or graphing of the vertical traces?...and why are you asking for just a "derivative" instead of partial derivatives..I mean this is a multivariate function! Though I agree the poster shouldve shown his approach to determine level of approaching the question!
 

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