How to find motional emf w/o an equation for mag field?

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The discussion revolves around finding motional electromotive force (emf) without a specific equation for the magnetic field. Participants are exploring methods to calculate magnetic flux through small rings as part of this problem.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • One participant discusses iterating over small rings and expresses uncertainty about calculating the flux without a known expression for the magnetic field. Others question the applicability of external references and emphasize the need for original reasoning.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts on the limitations of external resources and the necessity of understanding the underlying principles to derive their own solutions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the application of Faraday's Law and the importance of comprehending the approach used in referenced materials.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the challenge of working without a defined magnetic field equation and are considering approximations, though specific details on these approximations remain unclear.

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Homework Statement
I need to code (in python) a simulation of a magnet dropping through a metal tube, demonstrating Faraday's law.
Relevant Equations
\oint_C {E \cdot d\ell = - \frac{d}{{dt}}} \int_S {B_n dA}
So I am tackling this by iterating over small rings, but I don't know how on earth I can write a function to calculate the flux through one of those ring's surface area. How can I use the derivative of a function I don't have an expression for? There must be some approximation I can make... but I don't know what it is.
 
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Thank you- but this won't work for what is asked of me. Interesting though!
 
sequoiasprout said:
Thank you- but this won't work for what is asked of me. Interesting though!
Can you be more specific as to why it won't work?
 
renormalize said:
Can you be more specific as to why it won't work?
I can't just take a function someone else made
 
sequoiasprout said:
I can't just take a function someone else made
Of course not, but you can read and understand the approach the authors use to obtain the magnetic flux through the rings and then apply Faraday's Law to find the force on the falling magnet. With that understanding you should be able to derive the appropriate results for yourself and develop code for it.
 
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