How to find net electric force of zero

Click For Summary
To find the position where a third charge experiences no net electric force between a charge of 3q at the origin and a charge of -2q at x = a, the equations for electric forces were set up. The key equation derived is 3/b^2 = 2/(a-b)^2, which simplifies to a quadratic form. The discussion emphasizes the importance of eliminating fractions for easier manipulation and suggests revisiting the initial equation for clarity. Additionally, participants highlight the need to consider the direction of forces on the third charge to ensure it is placed correctly between the two existing charges. Ultimately, the solution indicates that the third charge should be positioned at b = 5.45a.
davidflip
Messages
3
Reaction score
0
I was wondering if someone could help me with this question:


A charge 3q is at the origin, and a charge -2q is on the positive x-axis at x = a. Where would you place a third charge so it would experience no net electric force?

I currently set up two equations:
1. 3q*q/b^2 where b is in between the origin and and x=a
2. 2q*q/(a-b)^2

I try to solve for b but i get lost in the process and can't find the answer...
the answer is b=5.45a

Thank you so much :)
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Can you show us where you get lost? Then we can give you a hint about which way to go from there.
 
Sure!
I let them equal each other and I get:

3/b^2=2/(a-b)^2

then I did:
1. (3/b^2)-(2/(a-b^2))=0

2.(3(a-b)^2)-2b^2 / (b^2)((a-b)^2) =0

3. 3(a^2-2ab+b^2) - 2b^2 / b^2((a-b)^2)=0

4. 3a^2 - 6ab + b^2 / b^2(a^2 - 2ab +b^2)=0

I really don't know how to isolate b from here...
 
It's usually a good idea to get rid of all the fractions, by using the least common denominator in all of them, then cancelling the denominator. You can do this with your equation 4, but it's probably easier to go back to equation 1 and work from there.
 
davidflip said:
1. 3q*q/b^2 where b is in between the origin and and x=a
2. 2q*q/(a-b)^2

Another thing: are you sure b is between 0 and a? Consider the directions of the forces exerted on the third charge by the first two charges.
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

Similar threads

  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
9
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
1K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
1K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
3K
Replies
14
Views
3K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 32 ·
2
Replies
32
Views
3K