How to find tension in a rope when given the force?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving tension in a rope during a tug of war scenario, where two athletes exert equal forces. The participants explore the implications of the forces involved and the conditions under which the tension can be determined.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the forces exerted by the athletes and the tension in the rope, questioning the assumptions about the athletes' weights and their positions. There is an exploration of how the forces interact when the rope is not moving.

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Some participants have provided insights into the problem, suggesting that if the athletes' weights are negligible, the tension in the rope can be equated to the forces they exert. However, there is no explicit consensus on the assumptions being made regarding the athletes' weights and positions.

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There is an indication that the problem may be part of a homework assignment, and participants are navigating the constraints of the scenario, particularly regarding the athletes' weights and their effect on the forces involved.

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Moved from a technical forum, so homework template missing
Q: In a tug of war between 2 athletes, each pulls on the rope with a force of 200N.

a) What is the tension in the rope?
b) If the rope does not move, what force is each athlete exerting on the ground?

I wrote for both a) and b) 200N, and I am unable to confirm this because my textbook has no answers. I am also not very confident with this question, and am unable to justify my answers. Can someone please explain how to do this question?
 
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Amelina Yoo said:
Q: In a tug of war between 2 athletes, each pulls on the rope with a force of 200N.

a) What is the tension in the rope?
b) If the rope does not move, what force is each athlete exerting on the ground?

I wrote for both a) and b) 200N, and I am unable to confirm this because my textbook has no answers. I am also not very confident with this question, and am unable to justify my answers. Can someone please explain how to do this question?
Your answers are correct, except that in b) I assume the athletes also have some weight.
It sounds like a homework question. If so, it should have been posted in a homework forum.
 
Imagine the athlete on one end of the rope. If the rope had more than 200N tension then the athlete would be pulled toward the rope. So the tension in the rope is the same as the force exerted by each athlete, 200N. Suppose the feet of each athlete were affixed to the ground and that their weights are negligible. Let's look again at one athlete. That athlete is are pulling with a force of 200N, the tension in the rope is 200N, they are pushing toward the rope with their feet at 200N.
 
OldYat47 said:
Suppose the feet of each athlete were affixed to the ground and that their weights are negligible.
You would also need to assume that the athletes are almost flat to the ground.
 
Yes. If the weights are negligible then the forces all have to "line up" in a single line of action.
 

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