How to find the movements of lying person in bed

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying and analyzing the movements of a person lying in bed, specifically focusing on hand and leg movements. Participants explore the limitations of using force measurements from the legs of a bed to infer these movements and consider alternative methods for more accurate data collection.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that movements can be categorized into hand movements, leg movements, and combinations thereof, but emphasizes that measuring only the forces on the bed's legs limits the ability to discern individual limb movements.
  • Another participant notes that while the center of mass movement can be detected, differentiating between specific limb movements using only leg forces is not feasible, although typical activities may be identified through pattern matching.
  • A third participant shares their experience of recording movements using load sensors and extracting features, indicating they can distinguish between leg and hand movements but struggle to differentiate between leg-only movements and combined leg and hand movements. They inquire about the potential of pattern recognition techniques for this purpose.
  • Another participant reiterates that the restriction to measuring only leg forces prevents the discrimination of complex movements and suggests that using alternative methods, such as overhead video, could yield more precise data.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that measuring only the forces on the bed's legs is insufficient for accurately identifying individual limb movements. However, there is no consensus on the best method to achieve this, with differing opinions on the feasibility of pattern recognition techniques and alternative measurement methods.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations related to the measurement methods and the complexity of human movements, as well as the dependence on the definitions of movements being analyzed.

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1. Hi all,
I want to find what kind of movements a person(Ex: Hand Movement,Leg Movement,Hand+Leg Movements etc) is making when He/She is lying in the Bed. consider a rectangular Table(250*150 CM) which has 4 legs. we can only find the persons movement as a force on each legs
 
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sivanantham said:
1. Hi all,
I want to find what kind of movements a person(Ex: Hand Movement,Leg Movement,Hand+Leg Movements etc) is making when He/She is lying in the Bed. consider a rectangular Table(250*150 CM) which has 4 legs. we can only find the persons movement as a force on each legs


From the bed leg forces alone you cannot get the exact movement of individual limbs, just how the center of mass moves. But it is definitely possible to detect typical bed activities, using pattern matching.
 
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Hi A.T. Thanks for the Reply.
I recorded 15 peoples movement activity(few are 5 secs and few are 10 secs) with the help of load sensors and i extracted around 15 features 3 from center of mass and individual load cells variance and % of difference etc, when i have a look at those features i am able to find the big difference between leg and hand movements but i am not able to find any differences in leg alone movements and Leg + hand movements. i don't have a knowledge in biomechanics & related physics. Is it possible to differentiate these type of movements using any pattern recognition techniques or a pattern matching.
 
sivanantham said:
1. Hi all,
I want to find what kind of movements a person(Ex: Hand Movement,Leg Movement,Hand+Leg Movements etc) is making when He/She is lying in the Bed. consider a rectangular Table(250*150 CM) which has 4 legs. we can only find the persons movement as a force on each legs


As long as you remain restricted to measuring only the force on the bed's legs you will not be able to discriminate such complex movements of the person on that bed.

If you could open up your measuring to some other method, say overhead video, then you may expect to collect more exact data than could be obtained from four force sensors.
 
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