How to find the tension of the cord (Conical Pendulum)?

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The discussion revolves around a conical pendulum problem involving a mechanical bat attached to a cord, where the goal is to determine the tension in the cord. Participants have provided specific parameters such as the mass of the bat, the time per revolution, the length of the cord, and the height from the ceiling.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster expresses uncertainty about the equations needed to solve the problem and suggests a potential equation involving tension and gravitational force. Other participants question the derivation of this equation and the identification of the angle involved.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some suggesting possible angles and calculations. There is a focus on understanding the reasoning behind the equations rather than just applying them. No explicit consensus has been reached regarding the next steps.

Contextual Notes

Participants are discussing the angle associated with the tension and the geometry of the setup, indicating a need for clarity on the diagram referenced by the original poster. There is an emphasis on understanding the concepts rather than simply calculating values.

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Homework Statement



Hey, we have this mechanical bat that is attached to a cord and its flying around in a circle on the ceiling. Here is all the information that I have gathered.

Mass of the bat: 0.1345 kg
1.609 seconds per revolution
length of cord: 0.92 m
height from ceiling: 0.65 m

Here is what it looks like if it helps. I need to find the tension of the cord.

http://i49.tinypic.com/2ujkyme.jpg

Steps and equations would be very helpful.

Thank you!


Homework Equations



I don't know what equation to use or where to start. I think it's...

Tension*cos(x) = mg

The Attempt at a Solution



I don't know where to start; I've drawn a picture if you might help anyone.
 
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onhcetum said:
I don't know what equation to use or where to start. I think it's...

Tension*cos(x) = mg
That actually might be the right equation, depending on what x is. But you shouldn't just use it without understanding where it comes from. So: (1) how did you come up with that equation? (2) which angle is x?
 
cos^(-1) (0.65/0.92) = ~ 45 degrees

It is 45 degrees.

I think I read it somewhere.

What would be my next step? Just plugging everything in?

Tension = (9.8m/s^2)(0.1345 kg)/(cos 45) = 1.86 N?
 
I didn't ask what the value of x is, I asked which angle it is, i.e. identify where on the diagram it is. But the fact that you wrote "cos^(-1) (0.65/0.92)" suggests that you identified it correctly. So that works.

But for your own sake, I'd suggest continuing to think about this until you understand why that's the right answer. "I think I read it somewhere" doesn't really help you get anything out of the problem. (Sometimes it's the best you can do, but this is not one of those times)
 

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