How to get more people in the community interested in math and science?

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The discussion centers on strategies to increase interest in math and science among community college students. Participants explore various approaches, including outreach initiatives, club activities, and the impact of teaching methods on student engagement.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to enhance appreciation for science and math in their community college.
  • Another participant notes that many community college students may lack interest in academics, suggesting the existence of clubs or programs like MESA as potential avenues for engagement.
  • Some participants argue that disinterest in math and science stems from ineffective teaching methods, proposing that presenting concepts in an engaging manner could spark interest.
  • A participant shares a successful initiative from their previous college that involved monthly meetings with speakers discussing transfer opportunities and research collaborations, which reportedly increased student enrollment in science programs.
  • Concerns are raised about the sustainability of outreach efforts, particularly regarding public speaking skills and the potential for interest to wane after leadership changes in clubs.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of relating science and math to career outcomes to motivate students, noting that many attend community college with specific career goals.
  • Another participant suggests that outreach should extend beyond college to K-12 schools, referencing a successful program that engaged younger students in science and math.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and differing opinions on the effectiveness of various outreach strategies. While some advocate for direct engagement through clubs and presentations, others argue that interest in math and science may be more effectively cultivated through outreach to younger students and by connecting academic subjects to career aspirations.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in their approaches, including the need for funding and institutional support for outreach programs, as well as the challenge of changing established interests among college students.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to community college educators, student organization leaders, and individuals involved in outreach programs aimed at promoting STEM fields.

  • #31
mal4mac said:
Why not run an evening class? Start at the easiest level - maybe with "A Short History Of Nearly Everything" by Bill Bryson?

Or take a camera and post some lectures on youtube.

Then again, you seem to be doing very well at getting professors together to give lectures! Sounds like you should aim to be head of science broadcasting at one of the big TV companies... get everyone thinking...

Big TV companies are dinosaurs. Television is fast becoming obsolete, and I wouldn't be surprised if ten years from now people in college have no idea what television is. I don't own a TV. I have a big LCD screen in my living room which I can connect to a cable tuner or stream stuff from the internet.

It's a quite exciting time because there is all this new technology and we are learning all of these new thing that will be obvious to people.

One of the more interesting things I've noticed with effective lectures (Vi Hart or Khan Academy or Plinkett's reviews) is don't show the face of the person that is broadcasting. You point the camera at the image and then make that the center of the lecture. The other thing is that you can focus on a piece of paper and have the lecture be someone drawing something.
 
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  • #32
twofish-quant said:
Or take a camera and post some lectures on youtube.
Big TV companies are dinosaurs. Television is fast becoming obsolete
Have you any evidence to show this? Even radio seems far from obsolete, to me:

"In Our Time [BBC Radio 4] ... now enjoys an audience of two million for live discussions about topics from string theory to Arabic learning from the 8th to the 14th centuries"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jan/01/melvyn-bragg-written-world

This is a UK programme, 2 million is about 3% of the population!
 
  • #33
mal4mac said:
Have you any evidence to show this? Even radio seems far from obsolete, to me:

"In Our Time [BBC Radio 4] ... now enjoys an audience of two million for live discussions about topics from string theory to Arabic learning from the 8th to the 14th centuries"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jan/01/melvyn-bragg-written-world

This is a UK programme, 2 million is about 3% of the population!

I agree with twofish-quant is becoming obsolete.

There are way too many incentives to use mediums like the internet (ala Youtube and so on) over TV and like twofish-quant, I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes obsolete either in a little more than a decade.

Just for your own curiosity, you should ask if people have stopped or slowed down their TV usage (broadcast channels) over the years: the people I have known (including me) have basically given away their TV's unless they use them specifically to watch DVD's or play video games: not too watch broadcast channels.
 
  • #34
twofish-quant said:
Or take a camera and post some lectures on youtube.

That isn't a bad idea.

mal4mac said:
Why not run an evening class? Start at the easiest level - maybe with "A Short History Of Nearly Everything" by Bill Bryson? The point is, surely, to get people appreciating science, not try to turn them all into scientists. Bryson would be quite good as (i) they might have heard of him (ii) he isn't a science whiz, so they can identify with him...

Then again, you seem to be doing very well at getting professors together to give lectures! Sounds like you should aim to be head of science broadcasting at one of the big TV companies... get everyone thinking...

Have you come across the BBC Radio 4 programme "In Our Time", headed by Melvyn Bragg? He gets three professors together each week to talk about one big person/topic like "Benjamin Franklin" or "Electricity". Maybe you could do that on campus? Is there a campus radio? Or you could do it in a lecture hall... If you can't get professors, just play one of Melvyn's programmes and have a discussion session after them...

Another good BBC programme is "The Life Scientific", headed by by Jim Al Khalili. Here he interviews a top scientist each week about his life and work. Very inspiring. (Paul Nurse was very good recently...)

Bragg and Al Khalili are, like Bryson, top of the game, so you can learn a lot by seeing how they get difficult ideas across to the public.

I would love to be the head of science broadcasting--but doing theoretical physics has become a very personal goal for me. Understanding reality is starting to become almost of an obsession. Which is why reaching out and communicating to the community about science is a side-goal.

Unfortunately, we don't have a campus radio. It would have been a pleasant idea to get those two programmes to play on campus.
 

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