How to integrate (1/x*sqrt(4x^2 -1)dx using parts or trig?

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function (1/x * sqrt(4x^2 - 1))dx, with participants exploring various methods such as integration by parts and trigonometric substitution. The subject area is calculus, specifically focusing on integration techniques.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss different trigonometric substitutions and their implications on the integral. Some express uncertainty about the appropriateness of their chosen substitutions, while others suggest alternative approaches to simplify the integration process.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with several participants providing insights and corrections regarding the substitutions used. There is a recognition of the need for a more suitable substitution to properly address the integral, and some participants have offered clearer paths to follow, though no consensus has been reached.

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Some participants note the challenges posed by the original substitution choices and the resulting complications in the integration process. There is also mention of reference materials, such as integral tables and trigonometric substitution resources, being consulted for guidance.

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Homework Statement


(1 / x * sqrt(4x^2 - 1))dx

Homework Equations


done by parts/trig?

The Attempt at a Solution


1 = c
2x = b
sqrt(4x^2 - 1) = a

sin(theta) = 2x

sin(theta) / 2 = x
-(1/2)*cos(theta) d(theta) = dx
cos(theta) = -2*sqrt(4x^2 - 1)

I am not sure what to do about the x?

Can I just replace it all now?
 
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The substitution you chose is not a particularly good one because 4x^2-1 transforms to \sin^2\theta-1=-\cos^2\theta with the substitution \sin\theta=2x, and -\cos^2\theta is non-positive. (How do you take the square root?) You have cos\theta=-2\sqrt{4x^2-1}, which is incorrect.

It is usually better to use some trigonometric substitution other than \sin\theta when addressing equations involving ax^2-1.
 
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I have a triangle
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I called the hypotenuse 1, the bottom leg sqrt(4x^2-1) and the right leg 2x. a = theta.

sin(a) = 2x, x = sin(a) / 2, dx = cos(a) / 2 da
sqrt(4x^2 - 1) = cos(a)

replacing dx, x, and sqrt(16x^2 - 1).

I get (cos(a)/2)da / sin(a)/2 * cos(a).

I'm left with 1 / sin(a), integrate csc(a) = -ln[ csc(a) + cot(a) ];

csc = 1 / 2x
cot = sqrt(4x^2 -1) / 2x.

-ln [ (1/2x) + (sqrt(4x^2 - 1) / 2x) ]

Is that right now?

I can't verify because if i plug it into "the integrator" I get arctan o_O
 
You are still using \sqrt{4x^2-1}=\cos a with the substitution \sin a = 2x. That is not correct. You are using the wrong substitution.
 
I don't get what I can do =(.

I looked at the table of integrals.

du / u*sqrt(a^2 - u^2)

spits out a - 1 / a * ln| [ a + sqrt(a^2 -u^2) ] / u | ?
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trigonometric_substitution"
 
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You want 2x to be the hypotenuse! Thats the way to get your radical to be one of the sides! If 1 is the hypotenuse, the radical is sqrt(1-something), and that's not what you want!
 
/_| Hypot- 2x Right leg, radical, bot leg, 1, theta at bottom left
\cos \theta = \frac{1}{2x}

\sec \theta = 2x
x=\frac{\sec \theta}{2}
dx=\frac{\sec \theta \tan \theta}{2} d\theta
\tan \theta=\sqrt{4x^2 -1}

You will get this last step after your correct substitutions.
\int \frac{dx}{x\sqrt{4x^2-1}}= \theta
 
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Holy Moly! That Is A Lot Cleaner! But what does theta = ?

(theta) = -arctan(sqrt(4x^2-1))
 
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Ahh close, but no negative on the arc tan, since tan theta=sqrt(4x^2-1), arctan both sides,

arc tan(tan theta)=arctan(sqrt4x^2-1)
Which simplifies to

theta=arctan(sqrt(4x^2-1))
 

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