How to Create Liquid Nitrogen Using Dry Ice and Alcohol

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This discussion centers on the methods of creating liquid nitrogen, specifically addressing the misconception that using dry ice and alcohol can produce actual liquid nitrogen. Participants share resources, including a German website on advanced homemade physical apparatus and Wikipedia links for further reading. The term "poor man's liquid nitrogen" is clarified as a misnomer, emphasizing the significant differences between it and true liquid nitrogen. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the underlying principles of cryogenics.

PREREQUISITES
  • Basic understanding of cryogenics
  • Familiarity with dry ice and its properties
  • Knowledge of alcohol's freezing point and behavior at low temperatures
  • Ability to navigate scientific resources and articles
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the principles of the Siemens cycle and Hampson-Linde cycle for liquefaction processes
  • Explore the construction and operation of GM cryo-coolers and pulse tube refrigerators
  • Investigate the differences between liquid nitrogen and "poor man's liquid nitrogen"
  • Learn about the liquefaction of helium and its applications in cryogenics
USEFUL FOR

Students, hobbyists, and professionals interested in cryogenics, as well as anyone exploring the practical applications and misconceptions surrounding liquid nitrogen production.

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Hi Everyone
liquid nitrogen is very useful .

i want to know how to make liquid nitrogen?
i won't make a one. but i only want to know how to make it .
 
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Have you asked uncle Google?
 
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That's easy. Just take solid nitrogen and let it melt :wink:
 
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DrClaude said:
That's easy. Just take solid nitrogen and let it melt :wink:
yes:biggrin:
 
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that is a useful website:wideeyed::rolleyes:.
thanks for help.
but there is only one problemo_O?
I do not understand German:smile:.
but it is not a big problem i can use google translate:wink:
:biggrin:
 
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DrDu said:
Have a look here, although it is in German:
http://www.rapp-instruments.de/Hotcold/Kryo/main.htm
Rapp-instruments is my absolute favourite page about advanced home-made physical apparatus.
Dang!
Looks like the amazing DrDu
Pulled out another gem from his zoo
Of websites that remind me of a cuckoo
And teach you how to do science kung fu.....
 
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DrDu said:
Have a look here, although it is in German:
http://www.rapp-instruments.de/Hotcold/Kryo/main.htm
Rapp-instruments is my absolute favourite page about advanced home-made physical apparatus.
Seriously though....how did you run into that site, if I may ask ?
I've been searching about these things for some time now, I've never seen an amateur build something like a GM cryo-cooler, and pulsetube refrigerator. That guy's got something to be proud of. I've seen siemens cycle, Hampson-Linde cycle and stirling coolers, but nothing beyond that. I could give you links to just about all sorts of attempts on youtube, blogspots, personal websites, forums...and yet never saw a hint or reference to that german site. It's like Batman says "not so much as a green hair" about finding the joker.....
Do you have anything else "exquisite" up your sleeve?
 
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I don't know. Maybe it helps being German? :-)
 
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DrDu said:
I don't know. Maybe it helps being German? :-)
What about the other question? Do you know of something else interesting related to the topic? Maybe you know of an attempt to liquefy helium ?
 
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There are two ways to do this.
  1. Pour the alcohol into a plastic container and nest this container inside a bucket of dry ice.
  2. Alternatively, you can pour the alcohol directly over the dry ice. This is easier, but you won't have control over the temperature of the dry ice, so it's possible your alcohol will freeze.
 
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msajaa said:
There are two ways to do this.
  1. Pour the alcohol into a plastic container and nest this container inside a bucket of dry ice.
  2. Alternatively, you can pour the alcohol directly over the dry ice. This is easier, but you won't have control over the temperature of the dry ice, so it's possible your alcohol will freeze.
This is a common misconception. What you described is called poor man's liquid nitrogen, not actual liquid nitrogen.
And you would be well advised not to try demonstrations of Leidenfrost effect with that, since you'll end up losing whatever body part you tried it on.
[p.s. I really don't know who coined that term, it's hardly appropriate anyway.
Poor man's liquid nitrogen has little in common with actual liquid nitrogen, besides freezing flowers :)]
 

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