How to Prove a Mean Proportion Problem in Algebra?

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The discussion centers around proving mean proportion problems in algebra, specifically focusing on two problems involving mean proportions and continued proportions. Participants explore different approaches and reasoning related to these algebraic concepts.

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  • One participant presents a problem stating that if b is the mean proportion between a and c, then abc(a+b+c)^3 = (ab+bc+ca)^3, and provides a derivation based on the definition of mean proportion.
  • Another participant requests clarification on what the original poster has attempted so far to assist in providing help.
  • A participant expresses difficulty in knowing how to proceed with the problem regarding mean proportions.
  • Subsequent posts introduce a second problem involving continued proportions, where participants discuss proving a relationship involving a, b, c, and d in terms of their ratios and cubes.
  • One participant assumes that continued proportion refers to a geometric sequence and provides a detailed derivation to show the relationship between a and d.
  • Another participant thanks those who helped and acknowledges the complexity of the problems discussed.
  • A moderator suggests moving a new question to a separate thread for clarity and better assistance.

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Participants generally agree on the definitions of mean and continued proportions, but there is no consensus on the best approach to the problems presented. The discussion includes various methods and interpretations without resolving which is the most effective.

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Some assumptions about the definitions of mean and continued proportions are made, and the discussion includes various mathematical steps that remain unresolved or are dependent on specific interpretations.

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if b is the mean proportion between a and c ,show that

abc(a+b+c)^3 = (ab+bc+ca)^3
 
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I have edited your thread title to indicate what kind of question is being asked. A title such as "please help" does not give any information regarding the question.

Also, can you show us what you have tried so our helpers know where you are stuck and can best help?
 
i am unable to figure out in which direction and how to proceed with this
 
Hello, kuheli!

\text{If }b\text{ is the mean proportion between }a\text{ and }c,

\text{show that: }\:abc(a+b+c)^3 \:=\: (ab+bc+ca)^3
We have: .\frac{a}{b} \,=\,\frac{b}{c} \quad\Rightarrow\quad b^2 \,=\,ac

The right side is:

. . (ab+bc + ac)^3 \;=\; (ab + bc + b^2)^3

. . =\;\big[b(a+c +b)\big]^3 \;=\; b^3(a+b+c)^3

. . =\;b\!\cdot\!b^2(a+b+c)^3 \;=\;b\!\cdot\!ac(a+b+c)^3

. . =\;abc(a+b+c)^3
 
hi ... thanks a lot .
there is another problem with which i am stuck .i tried but its getting more complicated and long without any positive sign.the numerical is:

if a,b,c,d are in continued proportion prove that

a/d=(a^3 +b^3 +c^3)/(b^3 + c^3 +d^3)
 
Hello again, kuheli!

\text{If }a,b,c,d \text{ are in continued proportion,}

\text{prove that: }\;\frac{a}{d} \:=\:\frac{a^3 +b^3 +c^3}{b^3 + c^3 +d^3}
I assume that continued proportion means geometric sequence.

So we have: .\begin{Bmatrix}a &=& a \\ b &=& ar \\ c &=& ar^2 \\ d &=& ar^3 \end{Bmatrix} .where r is the common ratio.

The left side is: .\frac{a}{d} \:=\:\frac{a}{ar^3} \:=\:\frac{1}{r^3}

The right side is: .\frac{a^3+b^3 + c^3}{b^3+c^3+d^3} \:=\:\frac{a^3 + (ar)^3 + (ar^2)^3}{(ar)^3 + (ar^2)^3 + (ar^3)^3}

. . . . =\;\frac{a^3 + a^3r^3 + a^3r^6}{a^3r^3+a^3r^6+a^3r^9} \;=\; \frac{a^3(1+r^3+r^6)}{a^3r^3(1+r^3+r^6)}

. . . . =\;\frac{1}{r^3}Q.E.D.
 
soroban said:
Hello again, kuheli!


I assume that continued proportion means geometric sequence.

So we have: .\begin{Bmatrix}a &=& a \\ b &=& ar \\ c &=& ar^2 \\ d &=& ar^3 \end{Bmatrix} .where r is the common ratio.

The left side is: .\frac{a}{d} \:=\:\frac{a}{ar^3} \:=\:\frac{1}{r^3}

The right side is: .\frac{a^3+b^3 + c^3}{b^3+c^3+d^3} \:=\:\frac{a^3 + (ar)^3 + (ar^2)^3}{(ar)^3 + (ar^2)^3 + (ar^3)^3}

. . . . =\;\frac{a^3 + a^3r^3 + a^3r^6}{a^3r^3+a^3r^6+a^3r^9} \;=\; \frac{a^3(1+r^3+r^6)}{a^3r^3(1+r^3+r^6)}

. . . . =\;\frac{1}{r^3}Q.E.D.

thanks a lot ...
 
kuheli said:
thanks a lot ...

I have moved your next question to its own thread here:

http://mathhelpboards.com/pre-algebra-algebra-2/continued-proportion-problem-7531.html

It is better to create create new threads for new questions. You are more likely to get prompt help this way and our threads do not become long strings of successive problems which are more difficult to follow.
 

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