How to prove orthogonality on a set of functions?

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The problem involves determining the size of the largest subset of a given set of functions that are mutually orthogonal on the interval [-1, 1]. The set of functions includes 1, x, x², sin(x), cos(x), cosh(x), and sinh(x). The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to begin the problem.

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  • Participants discuss starting by identifying pairs of orthogonal functions and consider the implications of even and odd functions on a symmetric interval. There is a suggestion that the largest subset may only contain two functions, prompting further inquiry into the reasoning behind this.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the concept of orthogonality in the context of the provided functions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of even and odd functions, and there is a recognition that the original poster is beginning to clarify their understanding of the problem.

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Participants note the importance of considering pairs of functions rather than the entire set when assessing orthogonality. There is an acknowledgment that the question requires proving which functions can form mutually orthogonal subsets.

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Homework Statement


A set of functions, F, is given below. Determine the size of the largest subset of F which is mutually orthogonal on the interval [-1, 1], and find all such subsets of this size. Show all of your work.

F = { 1, x, x2 , sin(x), cos(x), cosh(x), sinh(x)}

Homework Equations


Not really any relevant equations, but I am aware that for a function to be orthogonal on symmetric bounds, the integral of the product of the functions on those symmetric bounds must be equal to 0.

The Attempt at a Solution



I have yet to complete an attempt because I'm not quite sure how to start. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Jay9313 said:

Homework Statement


A set of functions, F, is given below. Determine the size of the largest subset of F which is mutually orthogonal on the interval [-1, 1], and find all such subsets of this size. Show all of your work.

F = { 1, x, x2 , sin(x), cos(x), cosh(x), sinh(x)}

Homework Equations


Not really any relevant equations, but I am aware that for a function to be orthogonal on symmetric bounds, the integral of the product of the functions on those symmetric bounds must be equal to 0.

The Attempt at a Solution



I have yet to complete an attempt because I'm not quite sure how to start. Any help would be appreciated.

Start by finding some pairs of functions in the set that are orthogonal. Since you are working on a symmetric interval considering whether functions are even or odd can help a lot. You really don't have to do much integrating.
 
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Dick said:
Start by finding some pairs of functions in the set that are orthogonal. Since you are working on a symmetric interval considering whether functions are even or odd can help a lot. You really don't have to do much integrating.

Yeah, I got that! Lol. I'm just wondering, because it seems that the largest subset can only contain two functions..
 
Jay9313 said:
Yeah, I got that! Lol. I'm just wondering, because it seems that the largest subset can only contain two functions..

Seems that way to me too. Can you explain why?
 
Oh, I was confused. I thought that if you multiply all of the functions together, then they will end up being an odd function, meaning that the entire set multiplied together is mutually orthogonal. BUT the question was asking about two functions at a time being multiplied together. It makes a lot more sense. Now I just have to prove which functions you can and can't multiply together to form a subset. Thank you!
 
Jay9313 said:
Oh, I was confused. I thought that if you multiply all of the functions together, then they will end up being an odd function, meaning that the entire set multiplied together is mutually orthogonal. BUT the question was asking about two functions at a time being multiplied together. It makes a lot more sense. Now I just have to prove which functions you can and can't multiply together to form a subset. Thank you!

You are getting there. But you can have a set of more than two mutually orthogonal functions. For example, {sin(x),sin(2x),sin(3x)} are mutually orthogonal on the interval [-2pi,2pi]. Any pair you pick out of that set are orthogonal. For your set and interval, that doesn't happen. Any set of three functions won't be mutually orthogonal. You just have to figure out the reason.
 

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