How to Prove ∫ ψ1(x)*ψ2(x) dx = ∫φ1(k)*φ2(k) dk?

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The discussion revolves around proving the equality of two integrals involving wavefunctions and their Fourier transforms, specifically ∫ ψ1(x)*ψ2(x) dx = ∫φ1(k)*φ2(k) dk. The context is rooted in quantum mechanics and the application of Plancherel's theorem.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the use of Plancherel's theorem and the properties of wavefunctions, particularly focusing on the orthogonality of inner products. There are attempts to substitute expressions for the wavefunctions in terms of their Fourier transforms.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing with various approaches being suggested. Some participants express uncertainty about the assumptions made regarding orthogonality, while others emphasize the need for distinct variables in Fourier transforms. There is a recognition of mistakes in previous attempts, indicating a productive exploration of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the proof does not require the wavefunctions to be orthogonal, and there is a caution against assuming the integrals evaluate to zero without justification. The need for careful variable distinction in Fourier transforms is also highlighted.

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Homework Statement


Show that ∫ ψ1(x)*ψ2(x) dx = ∫φ1(k)*φ2(k) dk

(Where the integrations are going from -∞ to ∞)

Homework Equations


1. Plancherel Theorem: ψ(x) = 1/√2π∫φ(k)eikx dk ⇔ φ(k) = 1/√2π∫ψ(x)e-ikx dx

The Attempt at a Solution


It is clear that Plancherel's theorem must be used to solve this.

We also know by the properties of a wavefunction, that the inner product is orthogonal therefore equal to 0.

Since I know the inner product on the right hand will be 0, I am not quite sure how to show that the left hand side is also equal to the right hand side. (I assume the 1/√2π factors will be removed by the inner product being 0?)
 
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MrPhoton said:
ψ(x) = 1/√2π∫φ(k)eikx dk
Just plug in the above relation for ##\psi_1## and ##\psi_2## in the left hand side of the relation to be proved.
 
ψ1(x)* = 1/√2π∫φ*(k)e-ikx dk
ψ2(x) = 1/√2π∫φ(k)eikx dk

Therefore applying LHS of Initial equation, we get:

∫ ψ1(x)*ψ2(x) dx = 1/2π∫φ*(k)e-ikx φ(k)eikx dk
∫ ψ1(x)*ψ2(x) dx = 1/2π∫φ*(k) φ(k) dk
∫ ψ1(x)*ψ2(x) dx = 1/2π∫φ*(k) φ(k) dk = 0 (By Orthogonality)
∫ ψ1(x)*ψ2(x) dx = ∫φ*(k) φ(k) dk = 0 = RHS of initial equation

Something like this?
 
MrPhoton said:
ψ1(x)* = 1/√2π∫φ*(k)e-ikx dk
ψ2(x) = 1/√2π∫φ(k)eikx dk

Therefore applying LHS of Initial equation, we get:

∫ ψ1(x)*ψ2(x) dx = 1/2π∫φ*(k)e-ikx φ(k)eikx dk
∫ ψ1(x)*ψ2(x) dx = 1/2π∫φ*(k) φ(k) dk
∫ ψ1(x)*ψ2(x) dx = 1/2π∫φ*(k) φ(k) dk = 0 (By Orthogonality)
∫ ψ1(x)*ψ2(x) dx = ∫φ*(k) φ(k) dk = 0 = RHS of initial equation

Something like this?
Watch out: in the expressions for psi_1 and for psi_2 you must use two different variables for the corresponding Fourier transforms. For example, use k in the FT of psi_1 and use k' in the FT of psi_2. If you have learned about the Dirac delta function, you will get the answer very easily.
By the way, you do not have (and should not) assume that the integral is zero. The proof is general, it does not require psi_1 and psi_2 to be orthogonal.
 
MrPhoton said:
∫ ψ1(x)*ψ2(x) dx = 1/2π∫φ*(k)e-ikx φ(k)eikx dk
You already made a couple of mistakes there. First, the wavefunctions in momentum space corresponding to ##\psi_1(x)## and ##\psi_2(x)## cannot be the same as Fourier transform is a linear operation. Second, you should just first plug in ##\psi_1^*(x) = \int \phi_1^*(k)e^{-ikx} dk## and ##\psi_2(x) = \int \phi_2(k)e^{ikx} dk## into the inner product expression, and the integration over ##x## should remain at this step.
 

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