How To Self Study Spivak's Calculus

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The discussion revolves around strategies for self-studying Spivak's Calculus and linear algebra, specifically addressing the challenges of engaging with rigorous mathematical proofs. Participants share their experiences and seek advice on balancing study methods and materials before starting university courses in mathematics and physics.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to get a feel for Spivak's Calculus and Friendberg's Linear Algebra before starting university, questioning whether to study both simultaneously or focus on one.
  • Another participant suggests reading a chapter and attempting practice problems to familiarize oneself with the material, emphasizing visualization of problems.
  • A concern is raised about the theorem-proof structure of Spivak's book, with a question about whether to attempt proving theorems before reading the author's proofs.
  • One participant argues that trying to prove something is beneficial, even if unsuccessful, and acknowledges that reading the author's proof may be necessary at times.
  • A participant seeks advice on whether to use Strang's or Friendberg's linear algebra book in the short time before classes begin, while also asking for general advice for a college freshman interested in math and physics.
  • Another participant advises finding a balance between challenging oneself and avoiding demotivation, noting that some proofs may introduce new techniques that are not easily discovered independently.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the value of attempting to prove theorems and the importance of practice problems, but there is no consensus on the best approach to studying the materials or which linear algebra book to prioritize.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of comfort with the theorem-proof format of Spivak's book, indicating potential challenges in understanding and engagement with the material. The discussion reflects a range of personal study strategies and preferences.

Who May Find This Useful

Students preparing for university-level mathematics and physics courses, particularly those interested in self-study methods and engaging with rigorous mathematical texts.

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Hi, so I'm going to attend university this fall, and I'm planning to double major in math and physics. So I will be taking a calculus course based on Spivak and an Algebra course that uses Friendberg's Linear Algebra.

So currently I'm trying to start studying these books so that I can get up to speed with school. I just got Freindberg so until recently I have used Strang's Linear Algebra with Applications + MIT OCW. Should I continue this or should I do both together or what?

I'm not really planning to go far, I just want to get a feel of the material, before school. But I do want to learn whatever I can as effective as I can.

So how do you guys think I should study these books? They will be my first encounter with rigorous mathematical proofs.
 
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hhhhmmm, if I were you, I would first read a chapter, and then I think I would try some of the practice problems. Yeah, I think I would do just that.

I don't get too hung up on any individual problem when I self-study. Just try to get a feel for the types of problems you'll have to do in the future. If I can visualize the problem, then I feel like I'll have a far easier time with it in class, because I'll actually know what the prof. is talking about.
 
hhhhmmm, if I were you, I would first read a chapter, and then I think I would try some of the practice problems. Yeah, I think I would do just that.

Yeah, that's what you usually do but the book is theorem-proof oriented, so it's confusing sometimes. I mean I know the chapter (like the fist chapter is about the properties of the numbers), but it's different then from what I've seen until now.

My main question is whether to try and prove every theorem/statement he writes before he proves it? Or is that too much of a waste of time?
 
trying to prove something is never a waste of time. of course at some point you might want to give up and read his proof. the point is you benefit from trying even when you are unsuccessful.
 
Thanks Mathwonk, I was kind of worried that I was looking at his proofs too much for hints and such. Hearing YOU say that, makes me feel better about how I'm currently approaching the books.

I have another question, how should I go about linear algebra? Should I use Strang's book( Linear Algebra and it's applications) or Friendberg's? I mean just for the last 3.5 weeks before school starts, after that my course requires Friendberg's.

Also is there any other advice you can give a 18 year old college freshman (who enjoys both math and physics), attending a large public university (in Canada to be specific)?

Thank you for your time, I really appreciate it as well as your sticky
 
Try and find a balance between pushing and challenging yourself without depressing and demotivating yourself. Sometimes, a proof is included in the main text rather than set as a question to explain and introduce a new and subtle technique, something you really wouldn't have thought of on your own over a couple of days. Don't be too hard on yourself if you can't do it.
 

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