How to Simplify a Derivative with Multiple Terms

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the function f(x) = 2x^3 + cos^2(x^3). Participants are exploring how to simplify the derivative expression and are referencing trigonometric identities in the context of calculus.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the derivative calculation and express confusion regarding simplification techniques. There is mention of factoring out common terms and applying trigonometric identities, specifically the double angle formula for sine.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using trigonometric identities to aid in simplification. There is an acknowledgment of varying levels of familiarity with these identities among participants, and the discussion includes attempts to clarify these concepts without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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There is a noted lack of clarity regarding the "different solution" referenced from the book, which may be affecting the participants' ability to simplify the expression effectively. Additionally, some participants express uncertainty about their prior knowledge of trigonometric identities.

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Homework Statement



Find the derivative of
[tex]f(x)=2x^3+cos^2(x^3)[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



[tex]f'(x)=6x^2+2cos(x^3)*-sin(x^3)*3x^2[/tex]
[tex]f'(x)=6x^2-6x^2cos(x^3)sin(x^3)[/tex]

The book has a different solution since they always simplify, but how would I simplify it? I know it has something to do with the 6x2, but the 2nd 6x2 is attached to the cos.
 
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Just use the double angle formula for sin. What is sin2x for example?
 
Defennder said:
Just use the double angle formula for sin. What is sin2x for example?
Never heard of it :confused:
 
It's a Trig Identity that you should have come across in high school:

[tex]sin(2\theta)=2sin(\theta)cos(\theta)[/tex]
 
gabbagabbahey said:
It's a Trig Identity that you should have come across in high school:

[tex]sin(2\theta)=2sin(\theta)cos(\theta)[/tex]
I'm still in high school...
 
DollarBill said:

Homework Statement



Find the derivative of
[tex]f(x)=2x^3+cos^2(x^3)[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



[tex]f'(x)=6x^2+2cos(x^3)*-sin(x^3)*3x^2[/tex]
[tex]f'(x)=6x^2-6x^2cos(x^3)sin(x^3)[/tex]

The book has a different solution since they always simplify, but how would I simplify it? I know it has something to do with the 6x2, but the 2nd 6x2 is attached to the cos.
Okay, so factor it out:
[tex]f'(x)= 6x^2(1- cos(x^3)sin(x^3))[/tex]
You don't say WHAT the "different solution" in the book is so I don't know if you want that simplified more. You could use the identity Defennder gave you: Since sin(2x3)= 2sin(x3)cos(x3, cos(x3)sin(x3= (1/2)sin(2x3).

Whether you are in High School or not, taking a course before learning the pre-requisites for that course is just wasting your time. And trigonometry is definitely a pre-requisite for problems like this.
 
I've taken PreCalc. I just don't recall learning that identity. Maybe I just forgot or it was called by a different name. The only identities that I really remember well is the basic Pythagorean identity.

Thanks for the help though.
 

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