How to Simplify Boolean Algebra Expressions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around simplifying Boolean algebra expressions, specifically focusing on a homework problem involving the expression (x'y'+z')' + z + xy + wz. Participants share their attempts at solutions and seek guidance on the reduction process, including the application of DeMorgan's Laws and the use of Karnaugh Maps.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses frustration with the lack of examples in their coursework and seeks help with the Boolean expression.
  • Another participant suggests using Karnaugh Maps as a visual tool for Boolean algebra reduction.
  • A participant attempts to simplify the expression (x'y'+z')' and shares their steps, but is unsure of the final result.
  • Another participant advises using DeMorgan's Laws to expand and simplify the expression, providing links for reference.
  • Some participants share their solutions and methods, but there is confusion about the correctness of the answers and the appropriateness of posting complete solutions.
  • A participant mentions a software tool that can assist in simplifying Boolean expressions and generating circuits.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the correct simplification of the expression, as participants present different methods and results. Some express uncertainty about the steps and the expected answers.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the use of DeMorgan's Laws and Karnaugh Maps, but there are unresolved mathematical steps and assumptions regarding the simplification process. The discussion reflects varying levels of understanding and guidance in the coursework.

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I just started Digital Systems coursework and it seems our professor felt like giving us a book that has no examples and progresses the class with no examples as well. So basically we are stuck trying to learn Boolean algebra reduction with no real guidence.

Great.

Anyways, I'm looking for some help:



Homework Statement



(x'y'+z')' +z +xy+ wz


2. The attempt at a solution

all I can see is this:

(x'y'+z')' +z +xy
 
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Sorry, I'm having a very difficult day (IE trying to do all my homework and NONE of it, it seems, I can accomplish, either to my shoddy math skills or lack of guidence).

Anyways,

I really just need how to deal with that first expression:

(x'y'+z')'

There isn't an example in the book and the one example in the lecture notes doesn't include any sort of situaion. I have been trying to guess at it:


[(z+x')(z+y')]'+z +xy
(z+x') + (z+y')+z +xy
z +x' + y'+xy

The book says I should get x + y + z as my answer, but I don't see it. I assume we will learn those maps next since it's in the book, but I'm pretty sure this is the type of prof that wants it done his way and when he says it.
 
To work on (x'y'+z')', use DeMorgan's Laws:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Morgan's_laws

first expand the x'y' term (express it as an OR of two terms), and then apply the appropriate DeMorgan's Law to take the NOT of the whole expression.
 
Kbob08 said:
I just started Digital Systems coursework and it seems our professor felt like giving us a book that has no examples and progresses the class with no examples as well. So basically we are stuck trying to learn Boolean algebra reduction with no real guidence.

Great.

Anyways, I'm looking for some help:



Homework Statement



(x'y'+z')' +z +xy+ wz


2. The attempt at a solution

all I can see is this:

(x'y'+z')' +z +xy

(x'y'+z')' +z +xy+ wz
= use de morgan's law, (x.y)' = x' + y' | (x+y)' = x'.y'
= take out the common factor, anything +1 = 1
= z.1 + xy
= z + xy

hope this helps
 
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chickens said:
(x'y'+z')' +z +xy+ wz
= (x'y')'.z + z + xy + wz use de morgan's law, (x.y)' = x' + y' | (x+y)' = x'.y'
= z[(x'y')'+ 1 + w] + xy take out the common factor, anything +1 = 1
= z.1 + xy
= z + xy

hope this helps

I'm going to leave this solution for now because I think Bob has worked it out by now. I'm going to issue chickens a 0-point warning for posting a complete solution to a homework problem, however.
 
berkeman said:
I'm going to leave this solution for now because I think Bob has worked it out by now. I'm going to issue chickens a 0-point warning for posting a complete solution to a homework problem, however.

didnt know i can't do that, really sorry, next time will post a guided solution rather than a complete one
 
chickens said:
didnt know i can't do that, really sorry, next time will post a guided solution rather than a complete one

No worries. The PF is a special place. I have a feeling that you'll fit in well here.
 
hi you can use one very good programs for that .
http://www.phoenixbit.com/site/products.asp?productid=karnaughanalyzer

with that program you can get even the circuit.
 
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