How to Solve a Time-Dependent Force Problem for a Gliding Puck

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The discussion revolves around a time-dependent force problem involving a puck being propelled by a toy rocket engine. The puck, which has a mass of 2.00 kg, is subjected to a force expressed as F = (8.00 î – 4.00t ĵ) N. Participants are exploring the conditions under which the puck reaches a speed of 15.0 m/s, as well as its displacement at that speed.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • One participant attempts to find the time when the puck reaches a speed of 15.0 m/s by equating the total velocity to the sum of the components derived from the acceleration. Another participant questions the method of combining velocities in perpendicular directions. A third participant suggests integrating the acceleration to find the velocity and then calculating its magnitude, raising a question about the formulation used in their calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to the problem. There is a mix of attempts to clarify the correct method for combining velocities and to derive the necessary equations. No consensus has been reached yet, and participants are actively questioning each other's reasoning.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework problem, which may limit the information available for solving the problem. The initial conditions and the nature of the force applied are central to the discussion.

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Homework Statement



To model a spacecraft , a toy rocket engine is securely fastened to a 2.00-kg large puck, which can glide with negligible friction over a horizontal surface, taken as the xy plane. The engine exerts a time-dependent force, F = (8.00 î – 4.00t ĵ) N, where t is in seconds, on the puck. If the puck is initially at rest, (a) At what time will it be moving with a speed of 15.0 m/s? (b) How far is the puck from its initial position when its speed is 15.0 m/s? (c) Through what total displacement has the puck traveled at this time?

Homework Equations



Fx=ma, Fy=ma, v=at

The Attempt at a Solution



we know m=2.00 kg and F=(8.00i-4.00tj)
For the x component of F, 8.00 N= (2.00 kg)(x component of acceleration)
so a sub x= 4.00 m/s^2.
For the y component: -4.00t=(2.00)(y component of a) so a sub y= -2.00t m/s^2

To find the time at which the speed is 15.0 m/s I would think you would take v=(ax+ay)t and then set v=to 15 so 15=(4.00+(-2.00t))*t so 15=4.00t-2.00t^2. This is a dead end, however, since at no point does the equation -2.00t^2+4.00t-15=0/
 
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Leesh09 said:
To find the time at which the speed is 15.0 m/s I would think you would take v=(ax+ay)t …

No, vx= axt, and vy= ayt,

but v is not vx + vy

how do we combine velocities in perpendicular directions? :smile:
 
would it work to say a(t)=(4.00i-2.00tj), take the integral to find velocity and then find this magnitude? so 15= sqrt(4.00t2+(-t2)2)?? so then 225=16t2+t4, getting t=3 s?
 
Leesh09 said:
… so 15= sqrt(4.00t2+(-t2)2)??

erm :redface: … where did the (t2)2 come from?
 

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