Solving a Hockey Puck Collision: Final Velocity

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The problem involves a collision between two hockey pucks, one moving and one at rest, with the goal of finding the final velocity of the second puck after the collision. The context includes considerations of momentum and the application of the cosine law in a non-right triangle setup.

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  • Participants discuss their attempts to solve the problem using momentum conservation and the cosine law. There are questions about the accuracy of their results, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their calculations and the expected answer.

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Several participants have arrived at similar results, but there is no consensus on the correctness of these answers. Some express doubt about the solution provided in the thread, while others suggest that the problem may have been approached incorrectly or that the expected answer might be based on different assumptions.

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Participants note discrepancies between their results and the expected solution, with some considering the implications of equal masses and varying angles in their calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of assumptions regarding the setup of the problem.

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A hockey puck of mass 0.16kg has initial velocity of 2.0m/s[E] and collides with another puck that is initially at rest, has mass of 0.17kg. Once they collide the first puck travels 1.5m/s[N 31 E]. Find final velocity of second puck.

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I keep getting an answer that does not match with solutions.

So I first drew it out then made a triangle that does is not a right angle, so I decided to use cosine law.
I am aware that my total momentum is 0.32 kg m/s because PT=PT' ...

PT= (0.16)(2)
=0.32 kg m/s

I also figured out my P1

P1= (0.16)(1.5)
= 0.24 kg m/s

I set my triangle up to have a 59° because 90°-31°.

Now I use cosine law to find opposite side of my 59°.

a=√(0.32)2+(0.24)2-2(0.24)(0.32)cos59
P2= 0.2844 kg m/s

Now I plug this into P=mv

V = 0.2844/0.17
V = 1.7m/s [E 46 S]

Did I do something wrong??
 
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I worked this problem pretty quickly so like all of my solutions, I don't have a lot of confidence in it. But I got the same answer as you did. Maybe we both did it wrong the same way, or possibly the solution is wrong. Hopefully someone else will chime in.

Edit: I just worked the problem a second time and got the same result.
 
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I get the same. Do you know what the answer is supposed to be?
 
haruspex said:
I get the same. Do you know what the answer is supposed to be?
1.8 m/s. Which is close but usually the answer I get is the exact same as solutions.
 
Veronica_Oles said:
1.8 m/s. Which is close but usually the answer I get is the exact same as solutions.
I got 1.67, so 1.8 definitely seems wrong. Equal masses gives 1.77.
I tried swapping the masses but it made the answer 1.88.
I varied the angle from 31 degrees. Had to take it down to about 25 to get 1.8m/s. (The second puck's angle was then 45 degrees S of E.)
 
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@haruspex, I think you're right that they probably solved it using the same mass for both pucks.
 
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