How to solve the following matrix rotation

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The discussion revolves around finding the standard matrix for a rotation of 60° about the axis determined by the vector v = (3, 4, 5). Participants explore the appropriate methods for constructing the rotation matrix, including considerations of dimensionality and transformations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant initially questions whether multiplying each component of the vector by π/3 is the correct approach.
  • Another participant provides a 2D rotation matrix for 60 degrees but is unsure how to extend this to the 3D case involving the vector (3, 4, 5).
  • A suggestion is made to find a transformation that aligns (3, 4, 5) with a standard axis, followed by applying the 2D rotation matrix and then transforming back.
  • Some participants express confusion about how to transform (3, 4, 5) to a standard axis and inquire about examples or clarification on using a 3D rotation matrix directly.
  • There is a mention of the concept of change of basis matrices, with questions about how to obtain another basis from a single vector.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the method for constructing the rotation matrix. There are multiple competing views on whether to use transformations or a direct 3D rotation matrix, and confusion remains regarding the change of basis.

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Participants express uncertainty about the assumptions needed for transformations and the requirements for constructing a basis from a single vector.

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Find the standard matrix for the rotation of 60◦ about the axis determined by the vector v = (3, 4, 5).

do I multiply each x,y,z by pi/3?

doesnt seem like it should be that simple
 
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ok so I figured out that there is a rotational matrix in basic form that is

cos -sin
sin cos

so a rotation by 60degrees gives me a rotational matrix of
1/2 -sqrt3/2
sqrt3/2 1/2

now from here where would I proceed multiply it by v=(3,4,5)?
 
The matrix you gave is for 2D vectors. Here is a hint: find a transformation that sends (3, 4, 5) to some standard axis (say, the x-axis, i.e. to a vector of the form (t, 0, 0)) then rotate the x-axis, or whichever axis you picked, 60 degrees (that can be done using the 2D matrix you gave: for standard axes, the 3D rotation matrix is similar to the 2D one, as one axis is left fixed). Then transform back. Can you come up with a basis that has (3, 4, 5) as a basis vector? What would be the change of basis matrix? Hence, what would the rotation matrix be?
 
Bacterius said:
The matrix you gave is for 2D vectors. Here is a hint: find a transformation that sends (3, 4, 5) to some standard axis (say, the x-axis, i.e. to a vector of the form (t, 0, 0)) then rotate the x-axis, or whichever axis you picked, 60 degrees (that can be done using the 2D matrix you gave: for standard axes, the 3D rotation matrix is similar to the 2D one, as one axis is left fixed). Then transform back. Can you come up with a basis that has (3, 4, 5) as a basis vector? What would be the change of basis matrix? Hence, what would the rotation matrix be?

im confused
i don't no how to get 3,4,5 to t,0,0 or 0,t,0 or 0,0,t
could i get an example then i can try and figure out my problem

can i use a rotational matrix that's 3d? and not have to perform a transformation?
 
LLand314 said:
im confused
i don't no how to get 3,4,5 to t,0,0 or 0,t,0 or 0,0,t
could i get an example then i can try and figure out my problem

can i use a rotational matrix that's 3d? and not have to perform a transformation?

Have you learned change of basis matrices? What are you expected to use to solve this problem?
 
Bacterius said:
Have you learned change of basis matrices? What are you expected to use to solve this problem?

we only have 1 vector set though... (3,4,5)
what would I use to obtain another basis?
We've always been given multiple vectors
 

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