How to Write M(x,x') in Dirac Notation?

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The discussion revolves around expressing the function M(x,x') in Dirac notation, particularly in the context of an integral involving m(x), M(x,x'), and g(x'). Participants are exploring the interpretation of these terms within quantum mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to relate M(x,x') to known forms in Dirac notation, with some suggesting it might represent a propagator. Questions arise about the roles of m, M, and g within the integral and their interpretations as states or operators.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the terms involved. Some participants have offered insights into the inner product and completeness relations, while others are clarifying their understanding of the notation and its implications. No consensus has been reached, but productive lines of inquiry are being pursued.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating potential ambiguities in the definitions of m, M, and g, as well as the assumptions underlying their interpretations. The original problem statement includes an integral that may impose specific constraints on how these functions are understood in the context of Dirac notation.

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Hey guys,
I am having difficulty interpreting M(x,x') into dirac notation. How do i write M(x,x') in dirac notation? The actual problem is to write the following in dirac notation:

int { int { m(x)* M(x,x') g(x') } dx} dx'

I would appreciate your help.
 
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Homework Statement


Hey guys,
I am having difficulty interpreting M(x,x') into dirac notation. How do i write M(x,x') in dirac notation? The actual problem is to write the following in dirac notation:
I would appreciate your help.


Homework Equations


int { int { m(x)* M(x,x') g(x') } dx} dx'





The Attempt at a Solution


i tried to use M(x,x') = m(x) m(x'). would that be appropriate?
 
could anyone help me on this ?
 
what is what in
int { int { m(x)* M(x,x') g(x') } dx} dx'
?
 
int means integration
 
and what about m , M, g? are the states, operators .. what is what?
 
Consider the inner product [itex]\langle m | M | g \rangle[/itex] and write it out in the position basis (hint, insert the completeness relation twice, once at each vertical bar).
 
For your attempt at solution, I don't know what M and m are supposed to be, but if they are what I think they are (M is some sort of propagator and m is a state) then I don't think you can write this.
 
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I think m(x) = <x|M> and m(x)* = <M|x>. But i don't know what to write for M(x,x') in dirac notation. Here x and x' are two different bases. Also, g(x') = <x'|g>.
 
  • #10
CompuChip said:
Consider the inner product [itex]\langle m | M | g \rangle[/itex] and write it out in the position basis (hint, insert the completeness relation twice, once at each vertical bar).

Have you tried that already?
 
  • #11
Ok, now i tried it. Following what you said, I found above integral equals to <m|M|g>. But i don't understand what you mean by M(x,x') is propagator? In dirac notation does M(x,x') equal to <x|M|x'> . It works out fine if i make that assumption.
 
  • #12
What does your original integral equal? And what do you mean by "I think m(x) = <x|M> .. " ? You don't know?
 
  • #13
No. I was not sure about that statement. But now it's clear. m(x) = <x|m> , not <x|M>. Thanks for your help guys. I get the answer <m|M|g>. But i still don't understand why M(x,x') = <x|M|x'>?
 
  • #14
OK, let me put it this way: do you know what [itex]\int \mathrm{d}x |x\rangle\langle x|[/itex] is?
 

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