How Were Napier’s Logarithms Invented?

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The discussion centers on the invention of logarithms, particularly focusing on John Napier's contributions. Participants explore the conceptual foundations of logarithms, their historical context, and their practical applications, including the use of logarithmic tables and the slide rule. The conversation includes both mathematical reasoning and historical perspectives.

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  • One participant describes Napier's conceptualization of logarithms using a point moving along a segment with a velocity that decreases proportionally to the distance left to travel, relating this to geometric and arithmetic progressions.
  • Another participant notes that the invention of logarithms allowed for easier multiplication by using tables to add logarithmic values, which was a significant advancement given the difficulty of multiplication at the time.
  • A participant expresses a desire for a more mathematical explanation of logarithms, indicating that the historical context is less relevant to their inquiry.
  • A suggestion is made to refer to external resources, such as Wikipedia, for a historical overview of logarithms.

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Participants express differing preferences for the type of explanation regarding logarithms, with some focusing on historical context and others seeking a mathematical approach. There is no consensus on a singular explanation or understanding of the topic.

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I’m trying to figure out how logarithms we’re invented. In addition, what does the calculator do when I want to solve a logarithm. After researching I found out that you could compare an arithmetic progression with a geometrical one, obtaining the principal properties of exponent calculation. Later, I found that Napier imagined a segment AB, where there was a point Q traveling along the segment but it’s velocity decreased proportionally in relation to the distance left to reach B. This would be a geometric progression. Then, you would divide the segment for each second that passed. After that, you would stretch the divided parts so they are equal. So due to the fact that the velocity decreases in relation to the distance left to B, it never reaches B. Therefore, the distance to B is infinite since for each second, the point travels the same distance. This would be an arithmetical progression.

Until there I can sort of understand it, but the difficult part for me comes here:

—————- The point
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moves at a constant speed of 107, so we have
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Since P moves at a speed that is proportional to the distance
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left to travel we have
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From this we see that

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which gives

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for some constant
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We can work out the value of c using our initial conditions. At the start, the point P still needs to travel the whole length of the line segment AB, which is 107. Therefore
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. The point Q hasn’t gone anywhere yet, so
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Plugging this into the expression above gives

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so

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Therefore,

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so

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and
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————-

All of the calculations on the top are copied from https://plus.maths.org/content/calculating-napiers-logarithm

Now, if we are trying to solve or to figure out how were logarithms invented and imagined, how does the ln appear if that itself is a logarithm. Also, could someone complete the explication of the foundation of logarithms ?
 

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DLeuPel said:
Now, if we are trying to solve or to figure out how were logarithms invented and imagined, how does the ln appear if that itself is a logarithm. Also, could someone complete the explication of the foundation of logarithms ?
Well, multiplication used to be hard and addition easy (by comparison). Therefore, the invention of logarithms meant that you could look up the factors in a table, add them, and then look up the answer in (another) table.

And - it laid the groundwork for the invention of the "slide rule", the essential part of any engineer's tool set.
 
Svein said:
Well, multiplication used to be hard and addition easy (by comparison). Therefore, the invention of logarithms meant that you could look up the factors in a table, add them, and then look up the answer in (another) table.

And - it laid the groundwork for the invention of the "slide rule", the essential part of any engineer's tool set.
I was thinking more of a mathematical approach for an explanation, but thank you.
 

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