Undergrad Huge Hole Found in the Universe

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The forum discussion centers around the discovery of a vast cosmic void, potentially spanning nearly a billion light-years, as reported in an article by Robert Roy Britt on Space.com. Participants seek clarification on the baryonic matter content, primarily hydrogen gas, and the methodologies used to measure both baryonic and dark matter in this region. The integrated Sachs-Wolfe effect is mentioned as a means to observe redshift variations in the absence of matter. Additionally, the Bootes Void is referenced as the largest known void, with implications for understanding dark matter distribution in cosmic structures.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of baryonic matter and its composition, particularly hydrogen gas.
  • Familiarity with the integrated Sachs-Wolfe effect and its implications in cosmology.
  • Knowledge of cosmic voids and their significance in the large-scale structure of the universe.
  • Awareness of dark matter and its role in gravitational dynamics within galaxies.
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  • Research the integrated Sachs-Wolfe effect and its applications in cosmological studies.
  • Explore the Bootes Void and other significant cosmic voids to understand their characteristics and implications.
  • Investigate methods for measuring baryonic and dark matter in cosmic structures.
  • Read recent papers on cosmic voids and dark matter distribution in the Astrophysical Journal.
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Astronomers, astrophysicists, and cosmologists interested in the large-scale structure of the universe, as well as students and researchers studying dark matter and cosmic voids.

  • #31
bob012345 said:
What if you are looking through a wormhole that connects much further?
Then you are talking about a different spacetime, one that includes such wormholes. The behaviour of it might (not necessarily will, but might) be very different from the spacetime being modeled here. If we were to find evidence of such wormholes we would have to reevaluate the plausibility of this model.
 
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When I saw the title, I thought of this:

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  • #33
bob012345 said:
What if you are looking through a wormhole that connects much further?
A finite speed of light over a finite length of time gives a finite distance. So the observable universe would still be finite, even if the total universe is not homeomorphic to Minkowski spacetime.
 
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TeethWhitener said:
A finite speed of light over a finite length of time gives a finite distance. So the observable universe would still be finite, even if the total universe is not homeomorphic to Minkowski spacetime.
Are you saying a wormhole could not connect to a point beyond the edge of the observable universe from our vantage point?
 
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bob012345 said:
Are you saying a wormhole could not connect to a point beyond the edge of the observable universe from our vantage point?
Well if we could observe it, it wouldn’t be beyond the edge of the observable universe, now would it?

But it would still be a finite distance. Reread post 29.
 
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etotheipi said:
When I saw the title, I thought of this:
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Huh. When I saw the title, I thought it was about the American leadership.
 
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bob012345 said:
I really don't know how you can say the source is 'unreliable'?

Because it isn't a textbook or peer-reviewed paper, and it has no math. The credentials of the author don't help any given that, as far as using the reference as a basis for discussion for a PF thread is concerned.

bob012345 said:
I'm fine to move my questions to the relativity forum.

Meaning that you start a new thread when you can find a better reference.
 
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Moderator's note: Some off topic posts regarding wormholes and black holes have been deleted.
 
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Buzz Bloom said:
Summary:: This is from an article in space.com by by Robert Roy Britt August 23, 2007.
The hole is nearly a billion light-years across. This one is mostly devoid of stars, gas and other normal matter, and it's also strangely empty of the mysterious "dark matter" that permeates the cosmos.
Other space voids have been found before, but nothing on this scale.

https://www.space.com/4271-huge-hole-universe.html

I would much appreciate any links cited to more information about this hole, especially more recent information. I would also appreciate any information to clarify the following questions.

How much baryonic matter is actually present (taking into account “mostly devoid”)?

Is is mostly hydrogen gas, i.e., either atomic H or H2?

How is this measured?

How it is possible to ascertain the amount (or absence) of dark matter present (taking into account that the presence of dark matter is usually calculated by the pattern of orbits of baryonic matter in a galaxy)?

How big are other space voids (presumably having no stars)?

How far away from Earth are these other voids?

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The link at the top. I apologize for forgetting to put it in. I blame it on a senior moment. Thank you @phinds for reminding me.
My religious friends keep telling me the universe is holey.
 
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