How much methane can a cornish pasty produce?

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The discussion revolves around the theoretical methane production from consuming Cornish pasties, exploring the biological and dietary factors influencing flatulence. Participants share humorous anecdotes, scientific reasoning, and personal experiences related to digestion and gas production.

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  • Some participants theorize about the methane production potential of a Cornish pasty, suggesting that dietary fiber content may influence gas output.
  • Others argue that individual digestive systems vary significantly, making it impossible to calculate a definitive amount of methane produced from a pasty.
  • One participant humorously claims to have discovered a biological power source related to gas production, while another mentions the role of methane-producing bacteria in the intestines.
  • Several participants share personal anecdotes about their experiences with flatulence, often in a light-hearted manner.
  • There are discussions about the composition of a Cornish pasty, with some participants debating the ingredients and their effects on gas production.
  • Some participants reference external research on methane production and its implications, indicating a serious interest in the topic.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the exact amount of methane produced from a Cornish pasty, with multiple competing views on the factors influencing gas production and individual variability in digestion.

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Limitations include the variability of individual digestive systems, the dependence on specific dietary components, and the unresolved nature of the calculations presented.

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Theoreticaly if all one ate all day was a cornish pasty, how much methane could said pasty produce.
 
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wolram said:
Theoreticaly if all one ate all day was a cornish pasty, how much methane could said pasty produce.
I'm just glad to say that my days of flatulence are gone. I haven't changed my diet, so it's a mystery. I don't think that cornish pasties would havemuch fiber, so they wouldn't produce much flatulence.
 
Can't be calculated - every 'body' is different. Now, Evo may produce a big zero on the flatulance scale, :biggrin: but I'm quite sure there are numerous members on this board who'd blow the lid right off the scale! (so to speak...) :wink: :smile:
 
I think i have discovered a biological over unity power source, it may be just a flash in the pants but if it pans out i could be famous.
 
Evo said:
I'm just glad to say that my days of flatulence are gone. I haven't changed my diet, so it's a mystery. I don't think that cornish pasties would havemuch fiber, so they wouldn't produce much flatulence.

Thats because women don't fart - ever. When they go to the bathroom flowers come out. You *never* hear a girl rip one. Guys on the other hand, give kudos to each other on how loud they fart.
 
Its the turnips{high fiber} that make them so lively.
 
hypatia said:
Its the turnips{high fiber} that make them so lively.

The mass to gas ratio would have to be about 5,000%
 
Well, your average Cornish pasty weighing 500g is probably, what, 10% carbon? So 50g carbon, at 12g/mol, would be 4.2 moles of carbon. Methane is CH4; molar mass 16g/mol, and you're a Wooly and therefore a mass balance. Given your general history of flatulence I'd reckon most of the pasty goes to produce methane rather than CO2 (it comes out of your arse, not your mouth), so probably something like 65g of Methane released per day per pasty.


Disclaimer: Not all science in this thread is real.
 
brewnog said:
Well, your average Cornish pasty weighing 500g is probably, what, 10% carbon? So 50g carbon, at 12g/mol, would be 4.2 moles of carbon. Methane is CH4; molar mass 16g/mol, and you're a Wooly and therefore a mass balance. Given your general history of flatulence I'd reckon most of the pasty goes to produce methane rather than CO2 (it comes out of your arse, not your mouth), so probably something like 65g of Methane released per day per pasty.


Disclaimer: Not all science in this thread is real.


:smile:

Someone light a match!
 
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Moonbear said:
:smile:

Someone light a match!

No! Wolram only lives about 50 miles from me. If the blast didn't kill me, the fallout would.
 
  • #11
wolram said:
I think i have discovered a biological over unity power source, it may be just a flash in the pants but if it pans out i could be famous.

brewnog said:
No! Wolram only lives about 50 miles from me. If the blast didn't kill me, the fallout would.

:smile: Those are two of the funniest things that I've read here all year. You guys should team up for the ribbon. (And that's not just because being English makes you inherently laughable...)
 
  • #12
I hear http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drax_power_station" has been given a target of 10% biofuel for 2010.

Wooly! If you're up for it, you could be producing 0.7% of the UK's power within 3 years! Get collecting!
 
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  • #13
Never mind Drax; it's Lexx that we have to worry about.
 
  • #14
wolram said:
I think i have discovered a biological over unity power source, it may be just a flash in the pants but if it pans out i could be famous.
Have you developed the collection pipes and (ahem) human-to-collection interface yet?

Pull my finger!
 
  • #15
It is not very funny when ones guts feel like a chemistry set, heck i near blew all the water out of the pan one time, that pasty lasted 36hrs, If some one can replicate my innards a Nobel prize a sure thing.
 
  • #16
(I've posted this before)
I told my doctor I was passing gas silent but deadly, and he prescribed a hearing aid.
 
  • #17
wolram said:
It is not very funny when ones guts feel like a chemistry set, heck i near blew all the water out of the pan one time, that pasty lasted 36hrs, If some one can replicate my innards a Nobel prize a sure thing.

Isn't a pasty mostly just meat and dough? What are you using for seasoning, E. coli?
 
  • #18
It's not dough, it's pastry! And the filling is steak, onion, and potato; occasionally with some swede, and always seasoned well with salt and pepper.
 
  • #19
I saw we serve it with some chili on the side and have ourselves a PF barbecue, then we'll give Drax a real run for their money
 
  • #20
Ki Man said:
I saw we serve it with some chili on the side and have ourselves a PF barbecue, then we'll give Drax a real run for their money
I'll bring a big bowl of my wife's wonderful black-bean "hummus" (it's a spicy hot black bean dip with chili peppers) and then get back a safe distance from Woolie. If a pastry crust full of steak, onion, and potato can gas him up, my wife's black bean dip would qualify him OPEC membership.
 
  • #21
turbo-1 said:
I'll bring a big bowl of my wife's wonderful black-bean "hummus" (it's a spicy hot black bean dip with chili peppers) and then get back a safe distance from Woolie. If a pastry crust full of steak, onion, and potato can gas him up, my wife's black bean dip would qualify him OPEC membership.

Why is everyone so cruel to me? i think you guys are great, (big bang) sorry.
 
  • #22
wolram said:
Why is everyone so cruel to me? i think you guys are great, (big bang) sorry.
I'm not being cruel! I'm trying to weigh the cost/benefit of black bean dip/methane production. All the same, I think that we ought to observe prudent safety precautions until we know more about your efficiency. :rolleyes:
 
  • #23
Wooly, come round here for dinner. I'll cook my famous lentil and cabbage curry. The gas engines were running 20% more efficiently at work the morning after my last one.
 
  • #24
wolram said:
Theoreticaly if all one ate all day was a cornish pasty, how much methane could said pasty produce.

On a serious note.

I would all depend if you have methane-producing bacteria in your intestine. About one third of the population have such bacteria.

Methane production is a serious area of research

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1379250
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1433329
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1383195
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1374298
 
  • #25
Tsu said:
Can't be calculated - every 'body' is different. Now, Evo may produce a big zero on the flatulance scale, :biggrin: but I'm quite sure there are numerous members on this board who'd blow the lid right off the scale! (so to speak...) :wink: :smile:

I'd blow the lid. I'm terrible!
 
  • #26
iansmith said:
On a serious note.

I would all depend if you have methane-producing bacteria in your intestine. About one third of the population have such bacteria.

Methane production is a serious area of research

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1379250
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1433329
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1383195
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1374298

Going by that second one, I'm thinking we'll want to keep clear of Wollie's breath too! :biggrin:
 
  • #27
brewnog said:
Wooly, come round here for dinner. I'll cook my famous lentil and cabbage curry. The gas engines were running 20% more efficiently at work the morning after my last one.

LOL.
 
  • #28
how many pasty's do I have to consume each day?

wolram said:
LOL.

As a newbie to this forum, I'm a bit hesitant to interject my research findings/question into such a serious thread, but being quite full of guinness right now, I don't care.

My query from a year ago of the internet suggested a mpg record of only 6000.
My research in the last 10 minutes has brought me back here with the news that there is now as http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/mostEfficient.shtml" vehicle.

In my very first thread here, I argued with Warren for about a minute or so:
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=203654
chroot
It sure would be cool if people finally realized that bicycles should count, but I guess that's not relevant here.- Warren

Only to find that bicycles are the most efficient vehicles on the planet, as long as you don't count fully loaded efficient vehicles:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_efficiency_in_transportation
bicycle: 653 mpg
Combino light rail 510 mpg 1400 mpg(loaded)

Warren of course, ignored my reference to our present thread:
https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=1536000&postcount=5
There's a vehicle in England that get's 6000 mpg. I don't see any difference in pedaling and using a motor running on human generated fuels. (See Wolram's idea)

Which is quite understandable, (ignoring me I mean).

So here's my question in full:

How many pasty's do I have to eat each day to get myself back and forth to work each day without having to pedal? (26 miles round trip, at 12,000 mpg, with the correct biobacteria)
 
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  • #29
OmCheeto said:
How many pasty's do I have to eat each day

I'm still trying to figure out if this is a cultural gap or just a spelling one. Over here, pastry is food; a pasty is a tit lid that shy strippers wear.
 
  • #30
Danger said:
I'm still trying to figure out if this is a cultural gap or just a spelling one. Over here, pastry is food; a pasty is a tit lid that shy strippers wear.

It's a cultural gap. In Britain, a pasty is like a meat pie. It was common among the Welsh working in mines (they brought this "delicacy" to MI too, which is where I was introduced to it), because even when their hands were filthy, they could eat the pie, holding the edge of the crust, and just discard the crust, which was then filthy from being held by their hands.

And, yeah, the first time I heard of a pasty, I thought the same thing you did. :biggrin:

Edit: Hmm...Wikipedia says it was the Cornish, not Welsh...my source of this information was Welsh, so he might have been a tad biased.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornish_pasty
 
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