News Hundreds die in Israel raid on Gaza

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The U.S. government condemned Hamas for breaking a cease-fire and launching rocket attacks on Israel, which responded with significant military strikes resulting in over 200 deaths, primarily among civilians. Israeli officials emphasized the need for a strong response to what they termed terrorist actions by Hamas, while critics pointed out the disproportionate nature of the violence. Discussions highlighted the complexities of the conflict, including accusations of war crimes against Israel and the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. Some participants drew controversial comparisons to historical atrocities, while others argued that Hamas's actions justified Israel's military response. The ongoing cycle of violence raises questions about the prospects for peace and the future of both Israeli and Palestinian communities.
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jreelawg said:
For one thing, it is wrong to just indiscriminately attack people on international waters.

By all first hand accounts of the passengers of the ship, no warning was issued, and they were hit in the night by a ship who had turned it's lights off. Meanwhile the other ships surrounding them had their lights on. Unless the CNN reporter is a lier, then it seams near impossible that they were not intentionally rammed.
The boat was sent radio messages to not enter Gaza, but the boat did not respond.

The "stories" from the captain and people on board are wildly conflicting.

According to the CNN reporter on board
Penhaul said an Israeli patrol boat shined its spotlight on the Dignity, and then it and another patrol boat shadowed the Dignity for about a half hour before the collision.

And seriously, does anyone believe that the Israeli's would do this without radioing the boat and then "ram them" for no apparent reason. That's utterly ridiculous.

But Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor denied that and said the patrol boat had warned the vessel not to proceed to Gaza because it is a closed military area.

Palmor said there was no response to the radio message, and the vessel then tried to out-maneuver the Israeli patrol boat, leading to the collision.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/30/gaza.aid.boat/index.html

So, there were three Israeli boats, that has been documented in several credible news reports. But then the "Free Gaza" protest group that owns the boat put out a statement
The organisation sent out an urgent statement on Tuesday saying the vessel had been surrounded by at least six Israeli military ships.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7805075.stm

Another ridiculous report had a claim of 11 boats. Oh and then gunfire was added. There was no report of gunfire in the first CNN report. Pretty soon I guess planes dropping bombs around them will be added?
 

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