Hypocycloid: A Mysterious Curve.

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The discussion revolves around the hypocycloid, a curve generated by a point on the circumference of a rolling circle inside a fixed circle. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to derive the representation of the hypocycloid, mentioning confusion with related curves like the epicycloid.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss starting points for deriving the hypocycloid, including expressing it parametrically and converting to rectangular coordinates. There is also a mention of exploring the relationship between the parameters involved.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on expressing the hypocycloid parametrically and converting coordinates, while others have expressed frustration with the clarity of the problem and the path to a solution. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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The original poster indicates they are aware of the answer but are struggling with the process to reach it, highlighting a desire for understanding rather than just the solution. There is a reference to external resources for properties of the hypocycloid, which may not fully address the poster's needs.

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Homework Statement


The hypocycloid is the plane curve generated by a point ##P## on the circumference of a circle ##C##, as this circle rolls without sliding on the interior of the fixed circle ##C_0##. If ##C## has a fixed radius of ##r## and ##C_0## is at the origin with radius ##r_0## and the initial location of the point ##P## is at ##(r_{0}, 0)##, what is the representation of a hypocycloid

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I didn't know how to start but to draw a picture. then I thought about the Epicycloid... these curves are related? I didn't know what to do so I played around, and I don't know if they are right or not. s.th. ##\delta_{0} = ((r+r_{0})/(r_{0}))\theta## ##(r+r_{0})cos(\delta_{0})-r cos(\delta_{0}) + (r+r_{0})sin(\delta_{0}) + r sin(\delta_{0})## I know this isn't right but just what I was thinking they could be...
 
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That isn't much help, =/ I thought someone would be able to work out the problem and tell me how they got the answer because it doesn't make sense, I am not looking for the answer I am looking for a solution... I know it sounds redundant, but look... I know the answer already but I do not know how to reach the solution, so if anyone can help me out that would be awesome
 
Well, first you can try to express it parametrically. Let t be a time parameter (letting the circle roll with constant angular velocity,) and try to find x and y in terms of t. Then it's possible to just convert back to rectangular by solving for a relationship between x and y.
 
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I know the answer already but I do not know how to reach the solution,
Ok, that was not clear. In the equations at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocycloid#Properties, the centre of the small circle, O', is at location (R-r, θ) in polar coordinates. Suppose P is at (r, ψ) in polar coordinates relative to O'. rψ = (R-r)θ (do you see why?). Converting to Cartesian and adding up the x and y coordinates separately gives the equations.
 

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