I cant understand this liminf/sup definition

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The discussion revolves around the definition of the supremum (sup) in the context of sequences, particularly focusing on the notation involving indices such as n ≥ 0. Participants are trying to clarify the meaning of this notation and its implications in mathematical terms.

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  • Participants are questioning the interpretation of the notation n ≥ 0 under the sup, discussing whether it implies a limit or a range for the supremum. There are requests for a clearer rewriting of the definition to aid understanding.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants expressing confusion and seeking clarification on the definition. Some have offered explanations regarding the notation, but a consensus has not yet been reached.

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There appears to be a focus on distinguishing between limit notation and range notation in the context of supremum, with some participants expressing difficulty in understanding the implications of the definitions provided.

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i got this new definition

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what is the meaning of n>=0 under a sup.
sup is not a limit
its only a number
we can't put index under it
what is the meaning of this indexes?
 
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transgalactic said:
what is the meaning of n>=0 under a sup.
sup is not a limit
its only a number
we can't put index under it
what is the meaning of this indexes?

Hi transgalactic! :smile:

Under the sup is n ≥ 0, not n -> 0.

anything with a -> (such as n -> 0) would be a limit, as you know …

anything without a -> (such as n ≥ 0) means that that is the range over which the sup is taken …

in other words, if you rewrite it inside {}, then it finishes with : n ≥ 0} :wink:
 
i can't imagine what you are saying

can you rewrite the definition
 
"sup" is a property of a set. [itex]sup_{n\ge m} {a_n}[/itex] is the supremum of the set {a_m, a_{m+1}, a_{m+2}, ...}.
 

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