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The problem involves proving the existence of a limit using the ε-δ definition, specifically for the limit as x approaches 1 of the function x². Participants are tasked with calculating the limit and justifying their answer through formal definitions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between |f(x)-1| and |x-a|, attempting to manipulate inequalities related to the limit definition. There is uncertainty about the role of k0 and how to apply the professor's hint regarding δ. Some participants explore different algebraic manipulations of the expression |x²-1| and question the implications of assuming δ<1.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and reasoning. Some have made progress in connecting their thoughts but express confusion about certain steps and the implications of their assumptions. There is no explicit consensus, but various lines of reasoning are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the ambiguity of k0 and its typical value, as well as the meaning of the min function in the context of δ. There is an acknowledgment of the constraints imposed by the ε-δ definition and the need for careful consideration of assumptions made during the problem-solving process.

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Homework Statement


Calculate the value of the limit and justify your answer with the ε-δ definition of the limit.
lim (x->1) x2

Homework Equations


My professor gave us the hint that we have to take δ as 0<δ≤ k0 so that δ(ε)=min{k0,ε/ (k0+2)}

I'm guessing that k0 is meant to be any number though it's usually 1?

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm trying to relate |f(x)-1|<ε to |x-a|<δ
|x2-1| < ε
-ε < x2-1 <ε
-ε+1 < x2 <ε+1
(-ε+1)1/2-1 < x-1 < (ε+1)1/2-1

I'm not sure what to do from here. I'm guessing that
δ=(-ε+1)1/2-1 or (ε+1)1/2-1
but I have no clue where to go from there.

I've tried doing this another way as well to make use of a k0 from my professor's hint

|x2-1| < ε
-ε < x2-1 <ε
-ε+1 < x2 <ε+1
-ε+1 < x x < ε+1 where if we assume that |x|<k0=1, we can then assume that -ε+1 < k0x < ε+1
(-ε+1)/k0 - 1 < x-1< (ε+1)/k0 - 1
This still doesn't give me what my professor hinted at though. (I don't know what to do after that.)
Also, what does the min{_____,_______} mean?
 
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Luscinia said:

Homework Statement


Calculate the value of the limit and justify your answer with the ε-δ definition of the limit.
lim (x->1) x2

Homework Equations


My professor gave us the hint that we have to take δ as 0<δ≤ k0 so that δ(ε)=min{k0,ε/ (k0+2)}

I'm guessing that k0 is meant to be any number though it's usually 1?

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm trying to relate |f(x)-1|<ε to |x-a|<δ
|x2-1| < ε
-ε < x2-1 <ε
-ε+1 < x2 <ε+1
(-ε+1)1/2-1 < x-1 < (ε+1)1/2-1

I'm not sure what to do from here. I'm guessing that
δ=(-ε+1)1/2-1 or (ε+1)1/2-1
but I have no clue where to go from there.

I've tried doing this another way as well to make use of a k0 from my professor's hint

|x2-1| < ε
-ε < x2-1 <ε
-ε+1 < x2 <ε+1
-ε+1 < x x < ε+1 where if we assume that |x|<k0=1, we can then assume that -ε+1 < k0x < ε+1
(-ε+1)/k0 - 1 < x-1< (ε+1)/k0 - 1
This still doesn't give me what my professor hinted at though. (I don't know what to do after that.)
Also, what does the min{_____,_______} mean?
k0 might be 1. It's just some unspecified number.

min{..., ...} means the minimum of the numbers in the list inside the braces.
 
I think I managed to connect the dots together. I shouldn't have gotten rid of the -1 in |x2-1|. Instead, I should have just turned it into (x-1)(x+1) and move on from there.

Assuming that x+1<1 and δ<1,
-1<x-1<1 so if we add +2 to both sides, we get 1<x+1<3
|x+1||x-1|<3|x-1|<ε
|x-1|<ε/3

But if I assume that δ<1, then δ=min{1,ε/3} won't make sense?
 
Luscinia said:
I think I managed to connect the dots together. I shouldn't have gotten rid of the -1 in |x2-1|. Instead, I should have just turned it into (x-1)(x+1) and move on from there.

Assuming that x+1<1 and δ<1,
Just assume that δ < 1. That makes |x - 1| < 1, which gives you bounds on |x + 1|, as you show below.
Luscinia said:
-1<x-1<1 so if we add +2 to both sides, we get 1<x+1<3
|x+1||x-1|<3|x-1|<ε
|x-1|<ε/3

But if I assume that δ<1, then δ=min{1,ε/3} won't make sense?
Now, choose δ = min{1, ε/3}. Typically, someone (else) would pick a small value for ε, so δ will typically be much smaller than 1.
 

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