I know nothing about differential equations

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The discussion revolves around the concept of differential equations, exploring their definition, significance, and various interpretations. Participants express varying levels of familiarity with the topic, ranging from complete novices to those attempting to clarify specific aspects of differential equations.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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  • Mathematical reasoning

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  • One participant requests a simple explanation of differential equations and their importance.
  • Another participant provides a link to a Wikipedia article on differential equations.
  • A participant expresses understanding of equations but struggles with the "differential" aspect, questioning if a linear equation qualifies as a differential equation.
  • Some participants define a differential equation as one that includes derivatives, providing examples to illustrate their points.
  • One participant describes visualizing differential equations as vector fields or arrows in space, suggesting a method for solving them.
  • Multiple examples of differential equations are presented, with varying levels of complexity and explanations regarding their solutions.
  • There is a discussion about the derivative as the rate of change, with participants attempting to clarify this concept through examples.
  • Some participants suggest that understanding functions is a prerequisite to grasping differential equations and derivatives.
  • There are concerns about introducing confusion with variable notation and the complexity of explanations.
  • One participant emphasizes the simplicity of differential equations, comparing them to basic algebraic equations and questioning the ability of students to solve them.

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Participants exhibit a range of understanding and interpretations of differential equations, with no consensus on a singular definition or approach. Some agree on the basic principles, while others express confusion or challenge the clarity of explanations.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about participants' prior knowledge of functions and derivatives, which may affect their understanding of differential equations. Additionally, the notation used in examples may not be universally familiar to all participants.

  • #31
Integral said:
One reason we study Differential equations is that in the world around us it is easy to observe and measure changes of quantities in time or space. Changes in temperature, changes in speed, changes in concentration, etc. We have found that if we can express those changes mathematically as differentials. This leads us to an equation containing expressions of differentials of our variables of interest. If we can solve these differential equations we end up with a function of that variable in time or space.

thanks!

as for my question above?
 
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  • #32
mather said:
hello!

can anyone add to this excellent animation, the animated graph of the second, third, etc derivative?

Graph_of_sliding_derivative_line.gif


thanks!

anyone ?
 
  • #33
Unstable said:
okay
x'(t) = \frac{dx}{dt} = \frac{\partial x}{\partial t} = \frac{d}{dt} x(t) = \frac{\partial}{\partial t} x(t) = \dot{x}(t).
These deserve some comment. Assuming x is a function of a single variable t, then all of the above are different ways of writing the derivative of x with respect to t.

x'(t) and ##\dot{x}(t) ## are variations of Newton's notation. For Newton, derivatives were always time derivatives; i.e., derivatives with respect to t. Newton used the dot notation, and the "prime" notation, as in x', is very similar.

The "d/dt" notation is due to Liebniz, who developed calculus at about the same time as Newton.

The notation with the "curly" d indicates that we're dealing with a partial derivative. That is, the function being differentiated has two or more variables, and we're looking at the (partial) derivative with respect to one of those variables.

If x is a function of only one variable, say t, then the partial (or partial derivative) of x with respect to t is exactly the same as the derivative of x with respect to to. OTOH, if x happens to be a function of, say, t and v, then the ordinary derivative is not defined, but the two partials are.

In other words, this is meaningless for a function of two or more variables: $$ \frac{dx}{dt}$$
but these have meaning: $$ \frac{\partial x}{\partial t} \text{and} \frac{\partial x}{\partial v}$$
Unstable said:
Aummarizing it is the derivation of a function x after t
It is the derivative of x with respect to t. Derivation has a different meaning.
 

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