I may not get my bachelor degree for political reasons help

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The discussion centers around the challenges faced by a student who may not receive their Bachelor’s degree due to administrative issues regarding transfer credits from another institution. The implications of this situation on their ability to attend graduate school are also explored, with a focus on the bureaucratic processes involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that they have completed all course requirements and taken significant coursework, but the administration is considering reducing their credits due to transfer policies.
  • Another participant suggests petitioning the dean for assistance regarding the situation.
  • Concerns are raised that without a Bachelor’s degree, graduate schools may not accept the student, despite their strong academic record and recommendations.
  • A participant emphasizes the importance of understanding the university's policies on transfer credits and suggests that there may be bureaucratic reasons for the administration's stance.
  • There is a discussion about the possibility of conditional acceptance to graduate programs, with the expectation that the undergraduate degree will eventually be awarded.
  • Questions are posed regarding the presence of the disputed classes on the transcript and whether prior approvals for those courses could support the student's case.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the "political reasons" cited by the student, suggesting there may be more to the story.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the likelihood of the student being accepted into graduate school without a Bachelor’s degree. There is no consensus on the best course of action or the implications of the administrative decisions.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of detailed information about the university's policies on transfer credits and the specific circumstances surrounding the student's situation. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the administrative processes and their impact on graduation.

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I applied to PhD programs, have good grades and got good five really strong recommendation letters. However I may not get my Bachelor degree by may. On paper I completed all of the course requirement for my degree and so far took 132 credits. However the administration is thinking of shaving 32 credits off of my transcript because I took those classes at another school. These classes include a graduate classical mechanics class and a PDE class. If they do this I will not graduate on time and I don't have money to spend an extra semester in undergraduate institution. I took Junior level E@M,Statistical Physics,Mechanics and Quantum Mechanics plus math all the way up to PDE and Complex Analysis. Even if I don't get my degree because of these bureaucratic reasons do you think I can still attend graduate school if I get in for Fall of 2015?
 
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You need to petition the dean of your college for extenuating circumstance and see if he/she can help you.
 
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If you don't get a bachelor's, grad schools are likely not to accept you.

I think it would also help you if you toned the drama down. There is a difference between a university having a policy for acceptance (or not) of transfer credit and "political reasons".
 
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It's political because I took those classes in the same university just at a different school. I was initially given the okay to take them. But now I'm getting a run around from all the administration. Whoever ever heard of a undergraduate physics department that doesn't accept a graduate Classical Mechanics class as an elective.
 
OK, then keep the drama level up. But don't complain to me if that doesn't get you where you want to be.
 
When graduate schools admit you, they generally give you conditional or provisional acceptance. The idea is that you have until a certain date to provide them with evidence that you have been awarded an undergraduate degree.

In your case you might be able to petition the graduate school to extend the date of your conditional acceptance, but the school will eventually expect that the undergraduate degree will be awarded.

While I don't know the details involved, it's best not to jump to conclusions either. Sometimes there are "fine print" details that need to be understood in these situations. A school may very well refuse to award you elective credits for courses taken outside of their program for a number of reasons. Maybe they need to verify that those courses were taught to their same standard as the courses taught in the rest of your program. Maybe "elective" is defined by excluding courses in your major subject area so as to give you a broader education. Maybe it's just a bureaucratic hiccup that will be addressed in time.

Do you have anything that says these courses are allowable from before you took the courses? That would go a long way to help your case.
 
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Are those classes and your scores on them still on your transcript?

Because if you've met your graduation requirements but would only not graduate on a technicality and have demonstrated that you can handle graduate-level coursework, I'm sure there is something you can work out between the dean of your own college and the admissions of whichever graduate school you wish to attend, especially if you were led to believe that coursework would allow you to graduate.
 
Why do you say "political reasons"?

I get the feeling there are missing parts to this story.
 

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