Solving a Physics Problem: Calculating Distance with Kinetic Friction and Work

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The problem involves calculating the distance a crate moves across a hardwood floor while considering kinetic friction and work done. The crate has a mass of 56.8 kg, a coefficient of kinetic friction of 0.120, and is pushed with a horizontal force of 124 N, with a total work of 74.4 J done on it.

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  • Participants discuss the definition of work done and its relation to force and displacement. There is confusion about how to apply the kinetic friction coefficient and how to rearrange the work equation to find displacement.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning definitions and attempting to clarify their understanding of the equations involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct formulation of the work equation, but there is still uncertainty about the calculations and the role of kinetic friction.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the application of the kinetic friction coefficient and the proper rearrangement of the work equation. Participants express uncertainty about the steps needed to arrive at the correct displacement.

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Here's the problem:
Marie slides a carte of nails across a hardwood floor. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the carte and the floor is 0.120. The crate has a mass of 56.8kg and marie pushes with a horizontal force of 124N. If the 74.4J of total work are done on the crate, how far along the floor does it move?

I'm a lil confused. I know that the equation of kinetic friction is fk=uk * N
But i have problem in determining where i put the variables in the equation.
Im so lost can someone pleaze help me?
 
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hi rghost90! welcome to pf! :smile:

(have a mu: µ :wink:)

hint: what is the definition of work done on the crate?
 
Hi and thank you. The problem doesn't state the definition of the crate. Or are you asking what is the definition of work on the crate? In that case, work is the object that is in motion due to a force and a displacement right?
 
no, i mean what is the standard definition of "work done"?
 
ummmm when an object has a force or a cause, that causes its displacement?
 
work done = force times displacement (strictly, force "dot" the displacement of the point of application of the force) :smile:

does that help? :wink:
 
oh you meant the equation of work? yeah i get that. I am having a problem on how to find the total displacement of the crate.
 
rghost90 said:
oh you meant the equation of work? yeah i get that. I am having a problem on how to find the total displacement of the crate.

that's the question! :rolleyes:

Use the definition of work done to write an equation, and put the given figures into the equation …

what do you get?​
 
oh ok I think I get it. So basically the equation of work is F= W*d. So I have to rearrange the equation so that its d= F*W? and that will get me my total displacement right?
 
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rghost90 said:
oh ok I think I get it. So basically the equation of work is F= W*d. So I have to rearrange the equation so that its d= F*W? and that will get me my total displacement right?

Yup! :smile:

(except it's W = Fd, and anyway you've re-arranged it wrong :redface:)
 
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oh lol oops. Yeah that's what I meant to say. I am such a noob at physics
 
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ok i got 9225.6. That isn't the final answer is it? don't I have to divide by the kinetic friction or something?
 
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You had to multiply by µ to find the force.

Once you've done that, you can forget about µ. :wink:
 
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oh ok. So I multiplied the force (124N) by µ (0.120). Then I plugged the total force (14.88) into the "work done" equation ( d= F*W) and then multiplied by the total work (74.7J) and got 1107.072.
 
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hi rghost90! :smile:

(just got up :zzz: …)
rghost90 said:
oh ok. So I multiplied the force (124N) by µ (0.120). Then I plugged the total force (14.88) into the "work done" equation ( d= F*W) and then multiplied by the total work (74.7J) and got 1107.072.

erm … you've done it again! :redface:

it's W = Fd.

Try again. :smile:
 

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