I want to learn Physics But I'm 13

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The discussion revolves around how a 13-year-old newcomer to physics can begin learning the subject despite having limited mathematical background, specifically lacking knowledge in trigonometry and calculus. Participants share resources, suggest approaches, and express varying opinions on the prerequisites for studying physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants recommend various online tutorials and resources for beginners in physics, emphasizing their accessibility.
  • One participant suggests that the necessary trigonometry and calculus for introductory physics can be learned quickly, within a day.
  • Others argue that the foundational math skills required for physics, such as algebra and geometry, take time to develop and cannot be rushed.
  • Concerns are raised about the importance of mathematical maturity and the potential pitfalls of skipping foundational math education in favor of immediate physics learning.
  • Several participants advocate for a balanced approach, suggesting that while physics can be studied at a basic level, a solid understanding of math is crucial for deeper comprehension.
  • Some participants mention the value of reading general physics books aimed at laypeople to build intuition without heavy reliance on mathematics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach for the newcomer. While some emphasize the feasibility of learning physics with minimal math, others stress the importance of a solid mathematical foundation, indicating a divide in opinions on how to proceed.

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There are varying assumptions about the pace at which mathematical concepts can be learned and their relevance to understanding physics. The discussion reflects differing views on the balance between immediate learning and foundational education.

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This discussion may be useful for young learners interested in physics, educators looking for insights on teaching approaches, and anyone exploring the relationship between mathematics and physics education.

  • #31
when i was about your age i enjoyed lincoln barnett's book: the universe and dr einstein.

when my son was your age he enjoyed "thinking physics" i believe, by lewis carroll epstein.
 
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  • #32
In 7th grade I was given both Beyond Einstein and Hyperspace. Both excellent books (it's written by a string theorist, so portions of it are psedoscience), and both give an excellent overview of the importance, development, and use of modern physics. Plus it is always nice to receive a small mind exercise in visualization.

After you have had your fill of pop-sci, I would suggest going to a local technical bookstore, or going to http://www.powells.com/subsection/PhysicsTextbooks.html and take a look around.

Also putting around amazon.com or your local college/university library (heck, even your standard public library-as many of them have introduction level texts) could also give you a hand.

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When you are comfortable with trig, solving equations for particular variables, and can deal with quadratics take the time to get a college level intro book and play around with the problems for a while.


If you want more problems to work with pick up a Physics GRE study book or Schaum's Outlines for physics.



Good luck
 
  • #33
^_^physicist said:
In 7th grade I was given both Beyond Einstein and Hyperspace. Both excellent books (it's written by a string theorist, so portions of it are psedoscience), and both give an excellent overview of the importance, development, and use of modern physics. Plus it is always nice to receive a small mind exercise in visualization.

After you have had your fill of pop-sci, I would suggest going to a local technical bookstore, or going to http://www.powells.com/subsection/PhysicsTextbooks.html and take a look around.

Also putting around amazon.com or your local college/university library (heck, even your standard public library-as many of them have introduction level texts) could also give you a hand.

--------

When you are comfortable with trig, solving equations for particular variables, and can deal with quadratics take the time to get a college level intro book and play around with the problems for a while.


If you want more problems to work with pick up a Physics GRE study book or Schaum's Outlines for physics.



Good luck
hyperspace is seriously incomprehensible. i must've read it in high school, and i don't remember anything from it. all pop sci books are very pretty and very tempting but they're really really bad for learning anything. it would be the same thing as flipping through a real physics textbook and reading the captions under the pictures that aren't diagrams.
 
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  • #35
"They did spur my imagination and whet my appetite for physics"

that is the most important thing... he has to learn the beauty of physics in order to motivate himself to study "real" math and physics... or he'll just drop it and find another hobby, unless he's one those weirdos who like doing calculations for the hell of it
 
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SpitfireAce said:
"They did spur my imagination and whet my appetite for physics"

that is the most important thing... he has to learn the beauty of physics in order to motivate himself to study "real" math and physics... or he'll just drop it and find another hobby, unless he's one those weirdos who like doing calculations for the hell of it

Heh! We're people too!

*Mutters about collapsing a wavefunction and seeing how you'd like it*
 

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