I would like to create a lifepo4 battery-bag that is failproof.

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The discussion centers around the feasibility of creating a failproof bag for carrying a lithium iron phosphate (LiFePO4) battery intended as a replacement for a traditional lead-acid car battery. Participants explore the technical requirements and challenges involved in designing a safe and user-friendly battery unit suitable for various applications, including powering an electric boat motor and providing jump-start assistance for vehicles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to create a lightweight, portable battery solution that can be easily handled by non-experts, emphasizing the need for safety features to prevent misuse.
  • Another participant cautions that nothing is truly fail-proof, suggesting that the technology may be costly and complex.
  • A later reply questions the necessity of using lithium batteries, proposing the alternative of a 12 V Gel battery, which may be easier to work with.
  • The original poster counters that while Gel batteries are less complex, they do not meet the desired weight and energy density specifications compared to lithium options.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach consensus on the best approach to creating the battery bag. There are competing views regarding the use of lithium versus Gel batteries, and differing opinions on the feasibility and cost of the proposed solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the specific technical requirements and costs associated with creating a failproof lithium battery solution, highlighting the complexity of electronics involved.

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Hi

I have a wish to create a bag that is intended for carrying a lithium battery that I can use as replacement for a regular lead car battery. Main reason I want to do this is to get something that is less of a pain to move around. For example power my minnkota electric boat motor, or be used as starthelp when the cold killed my regular car battery.

Ofcourse it is no problem to just put some batteries in a bag and have the cells charged separately, but I would like a complete unit that can be handeled like a lead battery.

If I could reach anything I was hoping for, the battery should be able to handle charging from a generator in a car or boat if decided to put there. Also be protected from deepdischarging by some circuit. Allow charging with a regular lead battery charger. So basically the circuit of the batteryunit would shield the lithium battery from abuse it wouldn't handle.

What technical solutions am I looking at to accomplish something like this? Possible?

Thanks.
 
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First, NOTHING is fail-proof.

Next, have you priced the technology? At the minimum, you're talking about hundreds of dollars.
 
Thanks for the input. Let me put it like this.

Failproof enough to be used by the average joe with no special knowledge about lithium battery treatment.

Yes it is several hundereds of dollars. I know how much cells are, what I don't know is the cost of a solution capable of what I am thinking. Hoping to get an idea by understanding what actually is required in terms of electronics. Sadly I am no electronics engineer myself.
 
Why not use a 12 V Gel battery? They come in different sizes and aren't nearly as difficult to work with as a lithium battery.
 
Because they still are heavy, and doesn't offer the same energy density. I want something that is light to carry. Around 10kg, and still have enough energy to be compareable to a smaller car battery.
 

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