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The discussion revolves around the engineering task of developing a vehicle powered solely by a rubber band, designed to carry a load of approximately 2kg and travel a minimum distance of 1 meter. Participants explore various materials, physics considerations, and strategies to optimize the vehicle's performance, particularly in a competitive context.

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  • Some participants suggest that additional requirements, such as cost and toughness, may influence the design choices for the vehicle.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of maximizing energy input to achieve the greatest distance, while also considering the load.
  • Another participant proposes using surgical rubber, noting that its mass is proportional to the energy it can store, and suggests that the rubber should weigh significantly more than the vehicle and payload.
  • Considerations for wheel diameter and optimal speed are raised, with suggestions to empirically adjust the rubber's length and width to avoid the need for gearing.
  • Participants discuss the potential benefits of using widely separated wheels locked together on one shaft to maintain straight movement, and the importance of lubrication for the rubber.
  • There are suggestions to use a flywheel and gear down for rough surfaces, while also considering the balance between kinetic energy and traction.
  • One participant notes that if speed is a scoring factor, concentrating weight on fewer tires may be advantageous, despite the potential inefficiency of sticky rubber tires.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various ideas and strategies, but there is no consensus on the best approach or materials to use for the vehicle. Multiple competing views remain regarding design considerations and optimization strategies.

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Participants have not fully defined the parameters of the competition, such as scoring criteria or specific constraints, which may affect their suggestions and strategies.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students or hobbyists interested in engineering design, particularly in the context of competitions involving mechanical propulsion and load-bearing vehicles.

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So basically I've been given a task to do. I have done lots of research, but I also think that asking the perspective of other people would be a good way to brighten up my ideas and options.

Simply, my task is:

Develop a vehicle, where the only source of power is a rubber band. The vehicle will have to carry a load (around 2kg) and must cover a distance of at least 1 meter.

Thoughts and ideas on materialsto use, physics to consider, and other useful advice would be GREATLY appreciated (:

Thanks in advanced! :smile:
 
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It really depends on what other requirements there are (cost, toughness, demonstrating your knowledge, etc.). You could easily slap this together in a few minutes with legos or tinkertoys, but I'm not sure that would be impressive enough.
 
Ok Ok. I should add that this is a competition, as well as a task.

The vehicle that goes the furthest distance obviously will get the better marks.

So how can I maximize energy input and correspond that to maximizing the distance. Don't forget load.
 
Just some random thoughts...

Surgical rubber.

Mass of the rubber is proportional to total energy it can hold, so ideally the rubber weighs notably more than the payload and vehicle.

Choose a wheel diameter and optimal speed (depends a lot on terrain texture), then adjust rubber length/width accordingly so hopefully you won't need gearing (Buy thinnest available because you can always double it up). You'll probably want to empirically adjust the rubber length/width ratio.

Also dependent on terrain: Consider widely separated wheels rotational locked together onto one shaft, to help keep it going straight. Have a strategy to make them be exactly the same diameter!

Lubricate the rubber, especially if its doubled up.

If the surface is rough, consider a flywheel and gear down and move slowly (assuming high efficiency gearing and a ratchet). Otherwise it might be better to get up a little kinetic energy and coast the last part, but not so much that you need good traction at the start (which translates to those inefficient soft sticky tires--something to be avoided, otherwise).

If speed gets you points, then most of the weight on just one or two tires (a drag rail comes to mind), and less efficient sticky rubber tires. (But it looks like speed isn't an issue)
 
Thanks a lot mate! Appreciate it !
 
Gustaviito said:
Thanks a lot mate! Appreciate it !

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