If evolution is true then why there is a monkey until this moment

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it is a common arrangement that say if evolution is true then why there is a monkey until this moment . I now that evolution is correct but who i can answer this question .
 
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rashida564 said:
it is a common arrangement that say if evolution is true then why there is a monkey until this moment . I now that evolution is correct but who i can answer this question .
Monkeys and humans are not the same animal. Evolution is not a straight line, it is a branching tree. Monkeys are on one path and have STAYED on that path. Humans, a very long time ago, were on the same path, but branched off into their own path.
 
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I cannot think of any reason why there shouldn't be monkeys. Recently (in terms of evolution) there also have been more of neighboring human species around. We were likely the reason they became extinct and the survival of higher primates doesn't look safe either. We are just another dry-nosed primate. A more successful one, hence still a primate.
 
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why not all the Monkeys get evolve to human
 
rashida564 said:
why not all the Monkeys get evolve to human
Why should they?
 
rashida564 said:
why not all the Monkeys get evolve to human
Why don't cats evolve to lions? It's simply the case that both models are successful in their corner of the world. And we still evolve! And I assume other species, too.
 
Your question stems from not understanding a lot of things. It is like asking 'why doesn't Evolution work to add fingers to families of concert pianists.'
Too many assumptions. Evolution has no goal, it doesn't "think". It does not "think" we humans are the epitome of all life. We are not an endpoint or a goal. We arose in response to lots of random events, usually unpleasant, way back in time. It won't happen again.

If you know programming, Evolution is very like Langston's Ant or Conway's Life. Complex behavior arises from following simple rules overs billions of iterations (or in Biology, generations).
 
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can the human get evolve
 
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rashida564 said:
why not all the Monkeys get evolve to human
No monkeys evolved into humans. Please reread post #2.
can the human get evolve
Humans are still evolving, yes.
 
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how we evolve
 
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Source: http://www.patzwaldt.org/karsten/post/97/evolution-als-baum.html/
 
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we began with oceans rust
 
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rashida564 said:
how we evolve
By adaptation, selection and random changes.
 
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rashida564 said:
we began with oceans rust
No, you are mis-reading the chart. Ocean rust was a stage in the Earth, like an ice age.
 
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rashida564 said:
how we evolve

[PLAIN said:
http://www.pnas.org/content/104/52/20753][/PLAIN]
Abstract:

Genomic surveys in humans identify a large amount of recent positive selection. Using the 3.9-million HapMap SNP dataset, we found that selection has accelerated greatly during the last 40,000 years. We tested the null hypothesis that the observed age distribution of recent positively selected linkage blocks is consistent with a constant rate of adaptive substitution during human evolution. We show that a constant rate high enough to explain the number of recently selected variants would predict (i) site heterozygosity at least 10-fold lower than is observed in humans, (ii) a strong relationship of heterozygosity and local recombination rate, which is not observed in humans, (iii) an implausibly high number of adaptive substitutions between humans and chimpanzees, and (iv) nearly 100 times the observed number of high-frequency linkage disequilibrium blocks. Larger populations generate more new selected mutations, and we show the consistency of the observed data with the historical pattern of human population growth. We consider human demographic growth to be linked with past changes in human cultures and ecologies. Both processes have contributed to the extraordinarily rapid recent genetic evolution of our species.

http://www.pnas.org/content/104/52/20753

Main author is John D. Hawks
 
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@rashida564, you will learn much more about evolution by actually READING about evolution, not asking semi-random questions on an internet forum.
 
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thank you
 
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rashida564 said:
why not all the Monkeys get evolve to human

Let's reiterate, monkeys never turned into humans. Both monkeys and humans evolved from a common ancestor. the reason they evolved into different things is because they evolved in different environments (the mother group got separated into at least two groups and each group evolved in their own way according to the details of their envrionment).
 
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rashida564 said:
can the human get evolve
I don't think so
 
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bayi said:
I don't think so
So, you think that modern humans just sprang into being like magic?
 
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phinds said:
So, you think that modern humans just sprang into being like magic?
"Many were increasingly of the opinion that they'd all made a big mistake coming down from the trees in the first place, and some said that even the trees had been a bad move, and that no-one should ever have left the oceans." (D. Adams, 1st vol. of 5 from the trilogy)
 
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rashida564 said:
why not all the Monkeys get evolve to human
Monkeys aren't humans. Humans have been able to evolve in a way monkeys have not been able to discover for millions of years.
 
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Thomas McGuigan said:
Monkeys aren't humans. Humans have been able to evolve in a way monkeys have not been able to discover for millions of years.
It's not a matter of "discovery" --- that's not how evolution works.
 
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phinds said:
It's not a matter of "discovery" --- that's not how evolution works.
Sorry… didn't realize I said that until you pointed it out
 
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Evolution is not simply replacing one thing with another; and also one thing evolving from another, earlier thing, does not necessarily cause the extinction of that earlier thing, or anything else. A tree branch branches and that does not kill off the first branch, does it? If you study that wonderful chart referenced above, you will see few core branches have gone extinct; evolution seems to be very robust in its diversity here, and it is mostly an additive process, not a replacement process.
 
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Monkeys and humans share a common ancestor. That's it.
 
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It used to be thought that evolution was driven by competition between different species and within species. That view has been replaced by the idea that co operation between species can also be advantageous. Not conscious co operation, of course, but behaviour and characteristics can benefit more than just one species. Insects and flowering plants rely on each other for success. The existence of monkeys and humans at the same time and place could well be an advantage to both.
 
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As you said, it is a very common line of argument, particularly from those who have an agenda to disparage the science behind evolution. But as ever, it is an argument based in a significant misunderstanding. Darwin never said that human beings are descended from monkeys. No serious evolutionary scientist has ever said that human beings are descended from monkeys. What Darwin did say, what there is overwhelming scientific evidence in support of, is that human beings and modern monkeys have a common ancestor. That is not the same thing. The last common ancestor of human beings and modern monkeys was not a modern human being and it was not a modern monkey. It was another species all together. One that no longer exists but that did not exactly go extinct. It simply evolved into something else. Or actually several something elses.Now get this point. Modern human beings and fruit flies have a common ancestor. When I once pointed this out to another sceptic, his contemptuous response was to laugh at the notion that any human ancestor ever used to, as he put it, ‘paddle around in dang’. But that notion is just as ridiculous as he sought to make it seem. Indeed, no ancestor of human beings ever engaged in the typical behaviours of a modern fruit fly. But the evidence that those two species share a common ancestor is compelling. Clearly, the last common ancestor of human beings and fruit flies is a lot more distant than that of human beings and monkeys. If you were to see that species you would not recognise it as being in any way connected to human beings or to fruit flies. But it would have had bi-lateral symmetry and a segmented body form, just like modern fruit flies and modern human beings. And its body was segmented by the very same hox genes that segment a modern fruit fly and that segmented your vertebrae.
 
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A species can diverge into two when the environment provides conflicting opportunities.

Imagine a heard of animals finds itself living in an apple orchard. The biggest animals can reach up and grab the apples. The smallest ones can climb the trees. But the mid-sized ones are stuck. Neither solution is better then the other, and neither of the resulting species can be said to be more evolved then the other.

This sort of thing can happen in all sorts of ways in the natural world. Two different environments might favor different characteristics. There is a random element to evolution, so even two different identical environments might produce different results if they are isolated from each other. (Islands or continental drift, for example. )
 

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