If f(x) -> oo and g(x) -> c, prove that f(x)+g(x) -> oo

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The discussion revolves around proving the limit property that if \( \lim_{x \rightarrow a} f(x) = \infty \) and \( \lim_{x \rightarrow a} g(x) = c \), then \( \lim_{x \rightarrow a} (f(x) + g(x)) = \infty \). The subject area is calculus, specifically the behavior of limits involving functions approaching infinity.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss two cases based on the value of \( c \): one where \( c \geq 0 \) and another where \( c < 0 \). They explore the implications of the epsilon-delta definition of limits and how to establish the necessary inequalities for both cases. Questions arise regarding the use of arbitrary points in the proof, particularly the choice of \( x_1 \) versus \( x \) in the context of universal quantifiers.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the proof structure and addressing potential misunderstandings about the use of arbitrary variables. Some participants suggest clarifying the notation used in the proof to ensure consistency. There is recognition of the validity of the proof approach, but also a focus on refining the argumentation.

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Participants are operating under the constraints of formal proof requirements in calculus, specifically adhering to the epsilon-delta definition of limits. The discussion highlights the importance of precision in mathematical language and notation.

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Homework Statement


If ##\lim_{x \rightarrow a} f(x) = \infty ## and ## \lim_{x \rightarrow a} g(x) = c ##, then prove that
$$ \lim_{x \rightarrow a} f(x) +g(x) = \infty $$

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Epsilon Delta definition of limit

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I will take two cases here.
Case 1. ## c \geqslant 0##
Let ##M>0## be arbitrary. Then ## 2M > 0##. Since we have ##\lim_{x \rightarrow a} f(x) = \infty ## , ##\exists~\delta_1 >0 ## such that
$$ \forall~x \in D(f) \left[ 0 < |x-a| < \delta_1 \rightarrow f(x) > 2M \right] \cdots\cdots (1)$$
Where, ##D(f)## is the domain of function ##f##. We also have ##\frac M 2 > 0##. Since ## \lim_{x \rightarrow a} g(x) = c ##, ##\exists~\delta_2 >0 ## such that
$$ \forall~x \in D(g) \left[ 0 < |x-a| < \delta_2 \rightarrow |g(x)-c| < \frac M 2 \right] \cdots\cdots (2)$$
where ##D(g)## is the domain of function ##g##. Now let ##\delta = \text{min}(\delta_1, \delta_2)##. Let ##x_1 \in D(f+g)## be arbitrary. And also suppose that ## 0 < |x-a| < \delta ##. Since ##x_1 \in D(f+g)##, we have that ## x_1 \in D(f) ## and ## x_1 \in D(g) ##. Also since ## 0 < |x-a| < \delta ##, from the definition of
##\delta##, it implies that ## 0 < |x-a| < \delta_1## and ## 0 < |x-a| < \delta_2 ##. So we can conclude from the equation 1 and 2 that, ## f(x_1) > 2M## and ## |g(x_1) -c| < \frac M 2##. It follows that $$ c - \frac M 2 < g(x_1) < c + \frac M 2$$ $$\therefore f(x_1) + c - \frac M 2 <f(x_1)+ g(x_1) < f(x_1) + c + \frac M 2 \cdots\cdots(3)$$ But we have ##f(x_1) > 2M##, so ##f(x_1) - \frac M 2 > \frac{3M}{2}##. This leads to ## f(x_1) - \frac M 2 + c > \frac{3M}{2} + c##. Since ## c \geqslant 0##, we get ## \frac{3M}{2} + c \geqslant \frac{3M}{2} > M##. We conclude that ## f(x_1) - \frac M 2 + c > M##. Using this in equation ##(3)##, we have $$ M < f(x_1) + c - \frac M 2 < f(x_1)+ g(x_1)$$ So we conclude that ## f(x_1)+ g(x_1) > M ##. Since ##M## and ##x_1## are arbitrary, we conclude that $$ \lim_{x \rightarrow a} f(x) +g(x) = \infty $$ Now we proceed to the case 2.
Case 2. ## c<0##
Again let ##M > 0## be arbitrary. So we have ##-2c >0## and ##2M >0##. So ##2M - 2c >0##. Since we have ##\lim_{x \rightarrow a} f(x) = \infty ## , ##\exists~\delta_1 >0 ## such that $$ \forall~x \in D(f) \left[ 0 < |x-a| < \delta_1 \rightarrow f(x) > (2M-2c) \right] \cdots\cdots (4)$$ Where, ##D(f)## is the domain of function ##f##. Since ##-c>0##, and since ## \lim_{x \rightarrow a} g(x) = c ##, ##\exists~\delta_2 >0 ## such that $$ \forall~x \in D(g) \left[ 0 < |x-a| < \delta_2 \rightarrow |g(x)-c| < -c \right] \cdots\cdots (5)$$ where ##D(g)## is the domain of function ##g##. Now let ##\delta = \text{min}(\delta_1, \delta_2)##. Let ##x_1 \in D(f+g)## be arbitrary. And also suppose that ## 0 < |x-a| < \delta ##. Since ##x_1 \in D(f+g)##, we have that ## x_1 \in D(f) ## and ## x_1 \in D(g) ##. Also since ## 0 < |x-a| < \delta ##, from the definition of ##\delta##, it implies that ## 0 < |x-a| < \delta_1## and ## 0 < |x-a| < \delta_2 ##. So we can conclude from the equation 4 and 5 that, ## f(x_1) > 2M-2c ## and ## |g(x_1) -c| < -c ##. So we get ## c < g(x_1) - c < -c##. Which is ## 2c < g(x_1) < 0 ##. Therefore, ## f(x_1) + 2c < f(x_1) + g(x_1)##. Since## f(x_1) > 2M-2c ##, we have $$ M< 2M < f(x_1)+2c < f(x_1) + g(x_1)$$ From here we conclude that ## f(x_1) + g(x_1) > M##. Since ##M## and ##x_1## are arbitrary, we conclude that $$ \lim_{x \rightarrow a} f(x) +g(x) = \infty $$ So we have proven this for both cases and hence ##\forall ~c \in \mathbb{R}##, we can say that $$ \lim_{x \rightarrow a} f(x) +g(x) = \infty $$ Can you check if this is OK!
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Seems correct to me but I don't see the reason you introduce ##x_1##, you should just say that for every x such that ##0<|x-a|<\delta## and proceed with x instead of x1.
 
Well Delta, Since we have a universal quantifier in the limit definition, I choose an arbitrary ##x_1## and then proceed to prove the statement inside that quantifier. After we prov the statement , then we can say that the statement is true for arbitrary ##x_1##, it is true for every x in the domain
 
Ok then I see a little mistake you say ##x_1## arbitrary but it isn't completely arbitrary it is such that ##0<|x_1-a|<\delta## so that (1) (2) or (4) and (5) are true for x1. You are saying this but you using x instead of x1.
 
Delta , I think the original goal here is to prove that $$\forall ~M >0 \exists~ \delta >0~ \forall ~x \in D(f+g)\left[ 0<|x-a| < \delta \rightarrow f(x)+g(x) > M \right] $$ So initially, I let ##M > 0## be arbitrary. Then with the choice of ##\delta## I have done, my goal becomes, $$\forall ~x \in D(f+g)\left[ 0<|x-a| < \delta \rightarrow f(x)+g(x) > M \right] $$ Since there is a universal quantifier at the beginiing, I let ## x \in D(f+g)## as arbitrary. So now the goal becomes $$0<|x-a| < \delta \rightarrow f(x)+g(x) > M $$ Since this is an implication, I assume the antecedent, ## 0<|x-a| < \delta## and then proceed to prove the consequent, which is ## f(x)+g(x) > M##.
 
Fine it is just that you assume the antecedent for ##x## while you prove the consequent for ##x_1##.
 
Actually now I see your point. I have used ##x_1## when I chose an arbitrary member in the domain , but I used ##x## in the antecedent. I should have changed that to ##x_1##. So with that error removed proof seems ok !
 
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