If |x| is large, what is f(x) approximately?

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The problem involves analyzing the behavior of the function f(x) = (x^5 - x^4 + x^3 + x) / (x^3 - 1) as |x| becomes large. Participants are exploring the approximation of f(x) in this limit.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the process of polynomial long division and the implications of the resulting terms as x approaches infinity. There is confusion regarding the approximation f(x) ≈ x^2 - x + 1, particularly about the behavior of the fraction as x becomes large.

Discussion Status

Some participants suggest that the function f(x) approaches infinity, while others clarify that f(x) and the quadratic function y = x^2 - x + 1 become closely aligned as x increases. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations regarding the nature of limits and asymptotic behavior.

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Participants are grappling with the concept of limits and the behavior of functions as they approach infinity, noting that the book's explanation may lack clarity. There is an emphasis on understanding how the terms behave relative to each other in the limit.

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Homework Statement



If |x| is large, then f(x)=(x5-x4+x3+x)/(x3-1) is approximately what?

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Just use long division


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Well, I just started out dividing the polys, and I ended up with f(x)=x2-x+1 + (x2+1)/(x3-1)


I thought, well, if x is very large, then the fraction at the end there will begin disapearing and tend towards 0. The solution in the book agreed, but I'm confused about something. The solution in the book says "as the limit as x --> infinity, (x2+1)/(x3-1) = 0, so f(x) ≈x2-x+1 But this doesn't make sense because as x tends to infinity, x2-x+1 will blow up towards infinity. I guess I am just not wrapping my mind around how f(x) is approximately x2-x+1 for |x| "very large". Is it just because the fraction goes to 0 faster than x2-x+1 goes to infinity?
 
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Essentially f(x) is infinity +0 to begin, because |x| is large. Work back from that assumption and it seems clear since the limit is infinity
 
Well the book was being a bit sloppy - as x gets very large f(x) approaches infinity as the function y=x2-x+1.

It means:
If you plotted the whole f(x), and the quadratic y as a dotted line, you'll find that f(x) gets closer and closer to following the dotted line. That is how f(x) approaches infinity.
 
The graphs of f(x) and x2-x+1 will become very close together as x gets large, because the difference between them goes to zero. It doesn't matter that they are both going to infinity. They will still be close together as they do.
 
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