If x=x^-1 for all x in G, then it's the same in H, for isomorphisms.

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The discussion revolves around a proof involving isomorphic groups G and H, specifically addressing the property that if an element x in G satisfies x^-1 = x, then the same should hold for the corresponding element in H.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the implications of the isomorphism between G and H, questioning how the property of inverses translates through the mapping. There are suggestions to consider operations involving x and its inverse, as well as the definition of an inverse in group theory.

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The discussion has progressed with participants offering guidance on how to approach the proof. There is an exploration of the relationship between elements and their inverses under the isomorphism, with some participants expressing confidence in the reasoning presented.

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Participants are working under the assumption that G and H are isomorphic groups, and they are examining the implications of a specific property of elements in G. There is a focus on the axioms of group theory regarding inverses.

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Homework Statement



G and H are isomorphic.
Prove that if x-1=x for all x in G, then x-1=x for all x in H.

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G is isomorphic to H means there is an operation preserving bijection from G to H.

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I need a point in the right direction.
 
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Pick an operation involving x and x^-1 and map it?

Or perhaps you should look up the exact definition of an inverse?
 
Thank goodness you're here!

Okay, so um, [tex]\theta (x) = y[/tex] ?

inverse means [tex]x*x^{-1} = e[/tex]
 
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ArcanaNoir said:
Okay, so um, [tex]\theta (x) = y[/tex] ?

inverse means [tex]x*x^{-1} = e[/tex]

What about [tex]\theta (x*x^{-1}) ?[/tex]Inverse in a group G means according to the axioms:
For each a in G, there exists an element b in G such that a • b = b • a = e​
So let's pick an element a in H.
Can you find an (the!) inverse b that satisfies the axiom, with the help of the isomorphism you have?
 
[tex]\theta (x*x^{-1})=\theta (x)*\theta (x^{-1})[/tex]
[tex]\theta (e_G)=e_H=\theta (x)*\theta (x^{-1})[/tex]
let [itex]\theta (x)=a[/itex]
then [itex]e_H=a*\theta (x^{-1})[/itex]
thus, the inverse of [itex]\theta (x)=a[/itex] in H is [itex]\theta (x^{-1})[/itex]

Yes?
 
Oh wait, but since [itex]x=x^{-1} , \theta (x^{-1})=\theta (x)= a[/itex]
Thus, each a in H, a=a-1

Did I prove it? Did I prove it? :D
 
Yep! :approve:
 
Hooray! Thank you very much. That was the most painless problem ever :)
 
Ah, but then, when things *click*, most of them are painless.
Perhaps you should revisit older problems in time...
 

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