I'm a freshman, will you be my friend?

[lisab]

I read somewhere that a person's brain isn't fully mature 'til atleast the age of 24. And that's still not everyone, lol, just a general idea.

I don't know about brain maturity...but as far as taking on the full responsibilties of an adult, I think you're about right, mcknia. At least in the states...I'm sure it's culture-dependent.

 

[rootX]

I don't know about brain maturity...but as far as taking on the full responsibilties of an adult, I think you're about right, mcknia. At least in the states...I'm sure it's culture-dependent.

I think in most cultures people get married at around 24. So everyone takes adult's responsibility at ~24 but it matters how capable they are.

There are people like Bush

 

[G01]

I never really understood this high school class mentality. In terms of knowledge, a freshman should probably respect the fact that a senior in their field knows more than they do, but they shouldn't be afraid to talk to them or treat them differently than any other student. Nor should upperclassmen feel superior to freshman. In fact they should offer any help they can to freshman. This kind of class system should be done with in high school. Both upperclassmen and freshman are still students.

I also think the generalization that people age 18-20 are less mature than people age 21-23 is false. Personally,I think that I and many of my friends were more mature when we were freshman than many people are when they are seniors in university. I was definitely more serious about my classes than many seniors at my university.

So, I think those of you who somehow think that it is not worth it to hang out with and get to know freshman actually try it. You may meet someone that is more mature than you expect.

 

[Cyrus]

I think humans never get fully matured. Because they are always more matured today than yesterday, in their self perceptions.

Personally, I think 16-18 years old are far immature than those at 19-20

Well, yeah. But there arnt any 16-18 year olds in college.

I think the reason why there is such a discrepancy is because young adults under 21 really never participate in true adult settings. They don't go to bars, conferences, or have serious jobs.

Once your 21, so many doors open to you. You're now able to hang out at a bar where the mean age is 26 or older still. These people arnt going to put up with your childish nonsense. If you have a real job, you're also working with mainly adults. Again, there not going to put up with you if you act like a 20 year old.

Personally, I am a night and day difference from who I was before I was 21. Dressed like a chump, not confident around people, didnt really care about my appearance. I used to let my hair get really long, to steal from Moe, until I had a 'jew fro' and then get a haircut. Pretty much your typical engineering dork.

On the other hand, I have "friends" I know from school that are nice people, but immature as all hell and 21-22. Then again, they are engineers so...

In conclusion, cut the freshman some slack. They're straight out of high school and around older people. I am sure 99% of them are humbled the first day when they realize there a nobody, whereas back in high school they at least had a group of friends.

My friend and I were walking to class and this guy ran up to us and asked us where the math building was. The poor guy was a total dope... I just pointed and said 'over there'.

College is great. Try this trick. I do it every day when I'm walking on campus. Look, actually LOOK at the person that's about to walk buy you straight in the face. 99% of them will look down and walk past you because they don't have any personal skills. If the don't look down, smile at them. THEN they'll turn their head or look down.

Now look at any ADULT and smile at them. They will say hello to you. That's what I can't stand about 99% of the people in college, they don't know how to socially interact with strangers.

The best fun is when I see someone walk all CONFIDENT down the sidewalk. I'll look right at you Mr./Miss confident, and they ALWAYS look down as I walk past them.

That's why I tell people who make these dating advice threads not to listen to people who tell them 'just be confident, act like it and she'll believe you'... It's so painfully obvious to someone when you're not confident, and you'll get called out on it (at least you will if I see you faking it).

I like talking/interacting with people because after a while you can read them like a book before they even say anything. You can tell their mood, and if the conversation's going to stink or not. 9/10 its not that hard to tell off the bat.

 

[tribdog]

I always try to introduce myself and shake people's hands, but only in public restrooms. Especially at the urinals. You want to talk about confidence.

 

[Evo]

Well, yeah. But there arnt any 16-18 year olds in college.

Actually there are. I started college when I was 16. I know several that started at 17.

I believe that MathJeans is in college courses and is 15-16.

 

[JasonRox]

Well, yeah. But there arnt any 16-18 year olds in college.

I think the reason why there is such a discrepancy is because young adults under 21 really never participate in true adult settings. They don't go to bars, conferences, or have serious jobs.

Once your 21, so many doors open to you. You're now able to hang out at a bar where the mean age is 26 or older still. These people arnt going to put up with your childish nonsense. If you have a real job, you're also working with mainly adults. Again, there not going to put up with you if you act like a 20 year old.

Personally, I am a night and day difference from who I was before I was 21. Dressed like a chump, not confident around people, didnt really care about my appearance. I used to let my hair get really long, to steal from Moe, until I had a 'jew fro' and then get a haircut. Pretty much your typical engineering dork.

On the other hand, I have "friends" I know from school that are nice people, but immature as all hell and 21-22. Then again, they are engineers so...

In conclusion, cut the freshman some slack. They're straight out of high school and around older people. I am sure 99% of them are humbled the first day when they realize there a nobody, whereas back in high school they at least had a group of friends.

My friend and I were walking to class and this guy ran up to us and asked us where the math building was. The poor guy was a total dope... I just pointed and said 'over there'.

College is great. Try this trick. I do it every day when I'm walking on campus. Look, actually LOOK at the person that's about to walk buy you straight in the face. 99% of them will look down and walk past you because they don't have any personal skills. If the don't look down, smile at them. THEN they'll turn their head or look down.

Now look at any ADULT and smile at them. They will say hello to you. That's what I can't stand about 99% of the people in college, they don't know how to socially interact with strangers.

The best fun is when I see someone walk all CONFIDENT down the sidewalk. I'll look right at you Mr./Miss confident, and they ALWAYS look down as I walk past them.

That's why I tell people who make these dating advice threads not to listen to people who tell them 'just be confident, act like it and she'll believe you'... It's so painfully obvious to someone when you're not confident, and you'll get called out on it (at least you will if I see you faking it).

I like talking/interacting with people because after a while you can read them like a book before they even say anything. You can tell their mood, and if the conversation's going to stink or not. 9/10 its not that hard to tell off the bat.

What school do you go to? Sounds like garbage to me. My school isn't like that at all.

 

[JasonRox]

So, I think those of you who somehow think that it is not worth it to hang out with and get to know freshman actually try it. You may meet someone that is more mature than you expect.

True. I met some girl at the library while studying during finals and she turned out to be 18 (now 19) and would have never guessed. She got research positions her first summer and is definitely very smart. She is very confident and has never been afraid to approach me (some girl friends of mine are afraid to) or even ask me to hang out.

Or some other girl who's 19, and has basically similar stats and her father is a Canadian diplomat that lives in Manhattan. (Like turbo-1 said, she may invite me over there one day. )

Don't think there all young, because I met some other girl who's 27 who has 2 undergrads, and she's an English teacher. Speaks french (not so good though), but speak proper English. Eats very healthy (vegetarian) and works out regularly. Very very attractive. Perfect for cyrus up until she has tattoos and black hair with highlights.

 

[Cyrus]

Actually there are. I started college when I was 16. I know several that started at 17.

I believe that MathJeans is in college courses and is 15-16.

I think that age group is a rare minority in college.

 

[humanino]

I think that age group is a rare minority in college.

Whether I count my personal friends, or the subset of interesting people, they still are a rare minority as well

 

[Cyrus]

Whether I count my personal friends, or the subset of interesting people, they still are a rare minority as well

Same here

 

[tribdog]

What do you think is the rarest minority, worldwide? Has to be a recognized minority and can't be paradoxical. ie no midget giants or one-legged albino lesbians. It has to be a minority that has a newsletter or something along those lines.

 

[humanino]

What do you think is the rarest minority, worldwide? Has to be a recognized minority and can't be paradoxical. ie no midget giants or one-legged albino lesbians. It has to be a minority that has a newsletter or something along those lines.

The rarest minority is the subset of people whose opinion is always right. It's about the same number of people as those known as tribdog on PF. They do have something along the lines of a newsletter

 

[tribdog]

I'm not always right. I'm usually right. I'm just a regular humble guy. I hope I don't come across in any other light.

 

[humanino]

I'm not always right. I'm usually right. I'm just a regular humble guy. I hope I don't come across in any other light.

Oh yes, sorry, I meant the minority whose opinion about favorite movies is always the right one !

 

[tribdog]

Okay, yeah, that's me

 

[Topher925]

Okay, I've really never had that experience. Maybe I just scare them away before they say hi. People just walk up to you, introduce themselves and then stare at you blankly? I mean, I say "Hi" to people I don't know as I pass them, and they say "Hi" back, and then we keep walking. Or, if someone introduces themself to me, which I don't think I've ever had happen while standing in line for books, usually more at a social function, I introduce myself back and engage in some chit-chat. But, that's usually in a situation where one expects to be meeting new people...a party, a meeting, the person next to you in class...not just someone standing in line with you.

Yes, they just come up to me out of no where. No just casual "Hi" kinda thing or nothing like that just random people in random places(no social events). I've noticed a lot of you are trying to put words in my mouth. I have no problem with being friends with freshman or younger than myself. If random non-freshman people came up to me out of no where (unless it was a hot girl) I would do the same thing. I just happens that the majority of the company I keep is older than I am, probably because of the maturity level.

Once again, I have no problem help, being friends with, or associating myself with freshman. But if went up to some random person while waiting in line some where and randomly just introduced yourself, what would you expect would happen?

 

[rootX]

Dressed like a chump, not confident around people, didnt really care about my appearance. I used to let my hair get really long, to steal from Moe, until I had a 'jew fro' and then get a haircut. Pretty much your typical engineering dork.

You described me accurately! Going even farther, I don't even remember what kind of haircut I had last time /which car my parents have / street-people names.

You are right that you are more matured than 21, but you will be even more matured when you would marry, have kids, send kids to school/university, have divorce, and the criteria for defining who's mature would also change... So, it's hard to say whether we are getting "more mature" or "less immature".

 

[Cyrus]

You described me accurately! Going even farther, I don't even remember what kind of haircut I had last time /which car my parents have / street-people names.

You are right that you are more matured than 21, but you will be even more matured when you would marry, have kids, send kids to school/university, have divorce, and the criteria for defining who's mature would also change... So, it's hard to say whether we are getting "more mature" or "less immature".

I think one always gets more mature. But at the same time I do think you reach some threshold of maturity, and after that point its really your tastes in things in life that change not maturity.

 

[Moonbear]

Once again, I have no problem help, being friends with, or associating myself with freshman. But if went up to some random person while waiting in line some where and randomly just introduced yourself, what would you expect would happen?

That just seems like such atypical behavior that I have to wonder where it comes from. Are they being told to do this during orientation? Is there some cruel group of upperclassmen telling them everyone loves this and they should greet all upperclassmen this way to make new friends? Is it part of the hazing for some fraternity?

Usually all the strange encounters with people striking up weird conversations in college were guys in fraternities being hazed (never mind that hazing was already supposedly forbidden by the university ). My favorite one was after I was in grad school and was in a coffee shop by the edge of campus with one of my friends. This guy walks up to talk to us, and immediately something seems "off." He's introducing himself while at the same time constantly looking at his watch, like he needed to be somewhere else. So, shortly after the hellos, he jumps to the generic, "so, what do you study?" question. Since something just seemed strange, I went for my end-the-conversation-quickly answer of, "I study goats having sex." (My field is reproductive biology...there are a lot of ways I could have answered that question, but I just wanted to freak out this guy and make him go away.) He looks down at his watch as his eyes widen, and he answers, "That was fast!" Now I was the puzzled one. It turns out, their task was to see which of the guys could get a woman to bring up the topic of sex in conversation fastest. I think he won.

 

[Nesiox]

I thought the HS bs stopped in HS, not permeate its way through college. I dislike upperclassmen. They think they're better than everyone, make snide and sarcastic remarks, always angry with freshman, never willing to at least make one good friend, stuck up, laugh at you when you make one simple mistake, et cetera. I'll do the same once I am upperclassman! :)

I'll even talk in a sarcastic condescending manner. 12 months and the new batch arrives!

 

[JasonRox]

Ok, I did what Cyrus told us to do and I stared at some girl walking by.

So, I was staring at her, and then she starred back, and then I said... "Hello." And surely, she looked down as she passed me...

...to make sure her boobs look ok.

Does that count?

 

[Topher925]

Ok, I did what Cyrus told us to do and I stared at some girl walking by.

So, I was staring at her, and then she starred back, and then I said... "Hello." And surely, she looked down as she passed me...

...to make sure her boobs look ok.

Does that count?

Are you sure she was checking her boobs? She could just have been ignoring you. Did you make sure to blink while staring at her?

 

[tribdog]

Maybe you should try looking in her eyes as she passes you instead of her chest. I know it's difficult but it can be done. that's one thing I'm proud of. I'll never be accused of looking at a woman's chest when I talk to her. It does take a little bit of will power, but it is noticed.

 

[turbo]

Maybe you should try looking in her eyes as she passes you instead of her chest. I know it's difficult but it can be done. that's one thing I'm proud of. I'll never be accused of looking at a woman's chest when I talk to her. It does take a little bit of will power, but it is noticed.

It's also a sure-fire hit if there's a twinkle in her eyes indicating interest, and you say "You have such pretty eyes." Nothing brings a blush to a lady's cheeks faster than an honest and inoffensive little compliment.

 

[tribdog]

works on men too. Check out some of the lies Evo and Moonbear have spouted in the member's pictures section.

 

[JasonRox]

Maybe you should try looking in her eyes as she passes you instead of her chest. I know it's difficult but it can be done. that's one thing I'm proud of. I'll never be accused of looking at a woman's chest when I talk to her. It does take a little bit of will power, but it is noticed.

What eyes?

 

[tribdog]

What eyes?

made me laugh.

 

[JasonRox]

It's also a sure-fire hit if there's a twinkle in her eyes indicating interest, and you say "You have such pretty eyes." Nothing brings a blush to a lady's cheeks faster than an honest and inoffensive little compliment.

Haha, yeah some have killer eyes. Cute girls with nice eyes and a nice smile kill me inside.

 

[tribdog]

Haha, yeah some have killer eyes. Cute girls with nice eyes and a nice smile kill me inside.

wow, how tragically, poetically descriptive.