Implications of recent events in Pakistan

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The discussion revolves around the recent geopolitical events in Pakistan, particularly focusing on the implications of US military actions, the state of education, and international relations with Russia. Participants explore the impact of these events on the stability of Pakistan and the effectiveness of development programs.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes the frequency of drone attacks in Pakistan, highlighting the resulting casualties among both terrorists and civilians.
  • Another participant emphasizes the significance of the failure of US development efforts in education in both Afghanistan and Pakistan, suggesting it is a critical issue.
  • Some participants propose that the instability of both the military and civilian government could lead to increased support for terrorist groups.
  • A later reply discusses the potential economic implications of US actions, suggesting that while the US may have succeeded in eliminating Osama bin Laden, it risks failing in economic development and resource management in Pakistan.
  • Participants express differing views on the importance of global education and awareness as a hopeful avenue for the future, with some seeing it as a positive development.
  • One participant raises concerns about the substandard education being provided in Pakistan, indicating it as a significant problem that needs addressing.
  • Another participant shares information about Russian companies' interest in developing Pakistan's energy sector, suggesting potential benefits for Pakistan's economic future.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the implications of recent events, with no clear consensus on the best solutions or the overall impact on Pakistan's stability and development. Disagreements exist regarding the effectiveness of education initiatives and the role of international relations in addressing these challenges.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various assumptions about the effectiveness of military and educational strategies, as well as the geopolitical context influencing Pakistan's development. The discussion reflects a complex interplay of factors without resolving the underlying issues.

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Few things happened recently:
1) About 100 or so drone attacks per year killing many terrorists as well civilians
2) A CIA contractor (Mr Davis) was bailed out from legal punishment after he murdered someone in Lahore (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12305049) - he got out after paying blood money to the relatives.
3) US military carried out a ground operation in Pakistan killing Osama
4) US carried out a drone attack recently after #3 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13307509)
5) US development efforts (education) are failing both in Afghanistan and Pakistan

Not only civilian government is under fire but also military is receiving fire for admitting that it failed to see US helicopters on radar as well did not know of Osama presence (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13311257).

Few dangerous implication I see is that both military and civilian government are losing support which might:
1) Make Pakistan more unstable
2) Make terrorists more popular

I don't see any good solution to the problems I highlighted other than
- finishing up the military business as soon as possible
- improve the development programs and make them more efficient

(Please avoid morality, justice, and emotional issues)
 
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#5 is a sad thing. ( not emotional ... or ...ok ..it is )

I think it's one of the best hopes for the future. A Global general education and Global awareness education can only be a good thing, in my opinion.
Here and everywhere.
 
IMHO the biggest problem lies with the substandard education being given in the respective countries. Your 5th point is a very important one worht looking into
 
here's something else that is interesting. now that the USG has won the battle and taken out OBL, it may lose the war on economic development and management of petroleum resources.

http://app.com.pk/en_/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=139332&Itemid=1
By Muhammad Ilyas Khan
ISLAMABAD, May 15 (APP): Leading Russian companies Gazprom, Zarubezhneftegaz and Inter Raoues are keen to develop Pakistan’s energy sector and will contribute to the building of power generating facilities and developing gas fields in Pakistan. This assurance was given to President Asif Ali Zardari during his first three-day state visit to Russia (May 11-13) during which the leadership of both the countries held in- depth discussions on bilateral, regional and international issues. The Russian business community showed interest in working together with the Pakistani government and businesses in a number of commercial, infrastructure and banking projects.

...modernization of Pakistan Steel Mills in Karachi
...system to transmit electric power from Tajikistan
...building of gas pipeline
...Russian companies desire to develop Pakistan’s oil and gas fields; develop petroleum and natural gas storages in Pakistan; improve Pakistan’s natural gas infrastructure and initiate projects for using natural gas as a motor fuel.
...oil and gas storage facilities
...automobile and tractor manufacturing

...heavy mechanical industry
...five to ten megawawtt power plants
...energy, investment, air services and agriculture cooperation.
...leap forward in Pakistan-Russia relations.
...relationship is geo- political and geo- economical.
 
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