Implicit differentiation find dy/dx and d2y/dx2

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The discussion revolves around implicit differentiation of the equation 2xy=3x-y^2, focusing on finding the first and second derivatives, dy/dx and d2y/dx2, respectively.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss their attempts at calculating the first and second derivatives, with one confirming their result for dy/dx and another expressing uncertainty about their algebraic simplifications.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the correctness of the first derivative, while others are exploring the simplification of the second derivative. There is an acknowledgment of the potential for algebraic errors, indicating a collaborative effort to ensure accuracy.

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Participants are operating under the constraints of implicit differentiation and are concerned about the simplification of their results. There is a focus on ensuring that the algebraic steps are correctly followed.

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2xy=3x-y^2

find dy/dx and d2y/dx2

I just want to make sure my answer is right and simplified

I got dy/dx= (3-2y)/ (2x+2y)

Now d2y/dx2 took some time but this is what i got:

(-12x+2x2y+9+4yx-14y-4y^2) / ((x+y)(2x+2y)^2)
 
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Your dy/dx is correct. I didn't work out the second derivative, but as long as you took the derivative of dy/dx using the quotient rule and implicit differentiation, replacing dy/dx in that expression with what you found, and then simplifying correctly, then you did it right.
 
yeah, i did that must i just wasn't to sure with my algebra (thats usually the step i would mess up). thanks though!
 
I don't know if you can reduce this to a more simpler form but this is simplest i got: y"=(3-2y)(3+8x+6y)/8(x+y)^3
 
was this from the equation i have up there or did u do this from the beginning of the problem?
 
the answer is yes and yes.
 

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