Implicit Differentiation: Finding dy/dx for a Given Equation

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of implicit differentiation to find dy/dx for a given equation involving polynomial expressions. The original poster presents a complex equation and outlines their attempts to apply the product and quotient rules for differentiation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster details their differentiation process, expressing uncertainty about their approach and whether it aligns with expected methods. They seek confirmation on their steps and inquire about isolating dy/dx from the resulting equation.

Discussion Status

Participants are engaging with the original poster's attempts, offering guidance on how to isolate dy/dx by rearranging terms and factoring. There is an ongoing exploration of the differentiation process, with some participants reiterating key steps without reaching a consensus on the original poster's method.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions a need to prepare for an upcoming exam, indicating a time constraint and pressure to understand the material thoroughly. They also express a lack of confidence in their differentiation skills, particularly in comparison to their professor's solutions.

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Homework Statement


Implicit Differentiation:

I Was given the equation find dy/dx:
(3x3y2 + 7x)
(x2y3 + 3xy)-

The Attempt at a Solution


Ok, i know i have to use the product rule on top, and on bottom and the quotient rule for the fraction so... if i set

s = 3x3
t = y2
u = (3x3y2 + 7x)
w = x2
n = y3
z = 3x
q = y
v = (x2y3 + 3xy)

ds = 9x2
dt = 2y(dy/dx)
du = (s(dt) + t(ds)) + 7)
dw = 2x
dn = 3y2(dy/dx)
dz = 3
dq = 1(dy/dx)
dv = (w(dn) + n(dw)) + (z(dq) + q(dz))

Quotient rule: v(du) - u(dv)/(v2)

ok, I'm just making sure i didn't make a mistake.

so now i do:

(x2y3 + 3xy)((3x3(2y(dy/dx)) + y2(9x2)) + 7)) - (3x3y2 + 7x)((x2(3y2(dy/dx)) + y3(2x)) + ((3x(1(dy/dx)) + 3y)
(x2y3 + 3xy)2


I had a tutor help me out in Implicit Diff. but i still don't really remember this stuff unless i look at it, and i almost always get different from the professor, is the above correct ( without factoring?) it looks a lot easier on my paper lol. and I'm supposed to be ready for this kind of magnitude questions on my exam :S i also don't know how i am going to be able to get dy/dx out of my equation, any tips there?
 
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you should group all the terms that has dy/dx in it on the other side. then factor out dy/dx.
 
ok, but once i have (dy/dx)*(long equation) i can't just subtract dy/dx to the other side?
 
Grogerian said:
ok, but once i have (dy/dx)*(long equation) i can't just subtract dy/dx to the other side?

you won't subtract it. you just have to divide the other side by the long equation you said.
 
well then, i feel stupid lol i even knew that ^.^ i differentiate the other side as well, which was = 7x -> 7
 

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